RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
- From: "Donaldson, Alasdair" <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 11:12:43 +0000
Sounds like he was having a pretty horrible nightmare.
From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama
Sent: 05 February 2014 1:11 PM
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
Go back to sleep.
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Sean Carrington
<theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Did someone say SFxT ?
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:04 PM, G B
<sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Gamernet House, 45 Salisbury Road, Cape Town, ZA
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Jack Steel
<orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Let me know were as it is my 1st time
On 2/5/14, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> Reason y i have xbox and ps3 was 4 kof 13 but i did not get copy i had
> sfxt found 1 sa player further no1.that's y i was gears of war player
> now im stuck on ggpo 4 competition toying around.
>
> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> Im gonna start of slow c im new 2 group im sa and friendly .i had a
>> copy of kof 12 but i need a copy of kof 13 i got xbox and ps3 and will
>> soon upgrade graphic card 4 pc. To cover most platforms c what games r
>> famous 2 play.train.and thn c it sound interesting.ill try 2 come 2
>> belville 2 get use 2 the flow.
>>
>> On 2/5/14, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>
>> wrote:
>>> I remember playing you on GGPO. My user name is ilitirit but I don't
>>> play
>>> on there any more cos my GGPO doesn't work. We play on SupArc now.
>>> It's
>>> like GGPO but you can play against 3 people in a lobby if you want to.
>>>
>>> Are you going to come to the Saturday sessions in Bellville?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Jack Steel
>>> <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My ggpo user is goku1up- and finalfighter i smashed many ggpo kof 2002
>>>> players avk team sa and other locals they tried all cheats 2 no profit
>>>> i hope to get smashed in kof13 and other platforms.smash or b
>>>> smashed"d.^_^;)
>>>>
>>>> On 2/3/14, Nicholas Robertson-Muir
>>>> <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>> > I wonder if they would have done the same if it was me?
>>>> >
>>>> > Or would they be all like... call the hospital, this man is about to
>>>> have a
>>>> > heart-attack.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Sean Carrington
>>>> > <theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> I think I'm troubled.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I might have cursed one too many times at the GM of Telkom
>>>> >> Claremont.
>>>> >> I was escorted out of the mall by security... *facepalm*.
>>>> >> On 03 Feb 2014 4:02 PM, "G B"
>>>> >> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> "subjective prices" - I mean that they are priced subjectively...
>>>> >>> See
>>>> >>> DeBont and Thaler (1985)'s classic overreaction hypothesis, or
>>>> >>> google
>>>> >>> anything on herding, as a basic yet 'oh so' applicable example.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:52 PM, G B
>>>> >>> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> Never heard of Peter Stone. Can you send me the title of the
>>>> >>>> article
>>>> or
>>>> >>>> the pdf? I'd love to read it.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> The reason why its frequently mentioned/used within the Hedge Fund
>>>> >>>> industry is due to how rapidly HFs change, as can be seen in the
>>>> >>>> quant
>>>> >>>> meltdown of 2007 (In three days, you could've made R1 turn into
>>>> >>>> R500,
>>>> >>>> if
>>>> >>>> you were at the right place at the right time). Testing for
>>>> >>>> adaption
>>>> >>>> here
>>>> >>>> is extremely interesting, and saves you years of work. HFs is also
>>>> >>>> the
>>>> >>>> canary in the coal mine in world of finance.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> You are spot on with the over-fitting issue. :-) I corrected this
>>>> >>>> when
>>>> >>>> I
>>>> >>>> implemented mine. When using fundamental analysis, they'd
>>>> >>>> implement
>>>> >>>> like,
>>>> >>>> 15 different fundamental metrics, of which maybe 4 or 5 have any
>>>> >>>> statical
>>>> >>>> significance. In fact, certain researchers went to the extent of
>>>> running
>>>> >>>> a
>>>> >>>> GA to select the variables for "best-fit" first... which is akin
>>>> >>>> to
>>>> >>>> data-mining in the sense that they are finding the best variables
>>>> >>>> that
>>>> >>>> fit
>>>> >>>> with the given data BEFORE running the algorithm.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> And yes, the evolutionary algorithm is trained using a data-base
>>>> first,
>>>> >>>> before it goes live. Typically, the GA selects the variables and
>>>> >>>> the
>>>> ANN
>>>> >>>> is
>>>> >>>> what does all the decision making. Having the computer decide what
>>>> >>>> it
>>>> >>>> should do for both is unwise, or at least, I think so.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Like I said, you put garbage in, you going to get garbage out,
>>>> >>>> that
>>>> >>>> is
>>>> >>>> how it works with these black box machines, so yeah, people have
>>>> >>>> used
>>>> >>>> GA's
>>>> >>>> before, but like we both mentioned, how you program it and I would
>>>> >>>> is
>>>> >>>> totally different, which means it would learn differently, just as
>>>> >>>> we
>>>> >>>> do.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> You also mentioned "Buy-Low/Sell-High" when there are economic
>>>> >>>> shocks,
>>>> >>>> which is a great strategy, sure, but stock prices will adjust
>>>> >>>> accordingly
>>>> >>>> anyway, so while they may be cheaper than usual, they won't
>>>> necessarily
>>>> >>>> be
>>>> >>>> mispriced, which is what I'm interested in. I can't always wait
>>>> >>>> for
>>>> >>>> some
>>>> >>>> kind of external economic movement to make money.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> As you've said, I don't want to match the market at all, else
>>>> >>>> I'd
>>>> >>>> go
>>>> >>>> passive. Stocks are priced at the value that the market values it
>>>> >>>> at
>>>> >>>> and
>>>> >>>> those are often subjective prices, more often than not.If I had a
>>>> basic
>>>> >>>> program to initiate buy/sell commands based on whether a stock
>>>> >>>> falls
>>>> >>>> below/above a certain price and expect it to earn money, I'd be a
>>>> >>>> billionaire by now.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>>>> >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>> @GB
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> I did some reading up on using GA against the stock market. It
>>>> >>>>> seems
>>>> >>>>> some Hedge Funds use them already, but most of these funds are
>>>> already
>>>> >>>>> defunct (probably not because of the use of GAs though). Was
>>>> >>>>> that
>>>> >>>>> paper
>>>> >>>>> you mentioned by Peter Stone? It answers a lot of the questions
>>>> >>>>> I
>>>> had.
>>>> >>>>> It
>>>> >>>>> seems the evolution of the ANN happens way before the data is run
>>>> >>>>> on
>>>> >>>>> live
>>>> >>>>> data. Stock Market GAs also tend to suffer from "over-fitting",
>>>> which
>>>> >>>>> is
>>>> >>>>> something I also mentioned. They try to adjust to past
>>>> >>>>> performance
>>>> in
>>>> >>>>> order to generate an expected result. However, most GAs don't
>>>> >>>>> take
>>>> >>>>> into
>>>> >>>>> account random fluctuations in the result, so they fail miserably
>>>> when
>>>> >>>>> they
>>>> >>>>> try to derive patterns from the data. The best they can do is to
>>>> >>>>> try
>>>> >>>>> to
>>>> >>>>> match the curve, which of course is very bad.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>>>> >>>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> He needs to confirm the subscription. The link should be at the
>>>> >>>>>> bottom of any of the admins' messages. Give me his email
>>>> >>>>>> address.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:03 PM, lindsey kiviets
>>>> >>>>>> <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >>>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> lol,
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> @ilitrit , gimme th fgc link again please.i added Hilton myself
>>>> >>>>>>> ,
>>>> >>>>>>> and
>>>> >>>>>>> it seems he is not added to the mails.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:59:14 +0200
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>> >>>>>>> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> *lol* Guys will just have to put their cellphones where I can
>>>> >>>>>>> see
>>>> >>>>>>> em,
>>>> >>>>>>> or else :P Scumbaggery at it's finest :P
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> I'm busy editing the vids. Will start uploading soon :)
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Ashraf Barendse <
>>>> >>>>>>> ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> The first rule of Random FG club is...
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Gohan is a charge character. I know this because LB knows this.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>
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