Don’t think so, think there were other politics involved probably. > On Dec 14, 2014, at 4:16 PM, Stacey <crazystacey25@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > I agree with u, the state should have taken care of that. Makes me wonder > what state officials were thinking. Did they like have their heads in the > clouds hoping this would just go away? Because it doesn't work like that. > On 12/14/2014 3:15 PM, Thomas McMahan wrote: >> It’s setting a dangerous pressedent thats for sure, but some other things >> that have been done lately also stretch boundaries. >> >> Should have been handled by the State, they have their Militia they can call >> up, and had it called up, but hadn’t had them moved to Ferguson. Sort of >> like Bengazzi in a way, but don’t know if the delay was from the Feds or the >> State. Chicago was ready when the UN did their thing a couple of years ago, >> they weren’t going to put up with masses of folks getting out of line. They >> usually don’t. But listening to the media back then you would have thought >> they were going to come and it would be the end of the world as we know it. >> Well they were able to do their protesting and parading, but any that got >> out of line quickly found themselves isolated and boxed in by the law and >> then whatever they were doing stopped quick. >> >> Of course those protesters probably weren’t interested in burning down >> neighborhoods, but if they hadn’t have been ready for them something like >> that could have eventually happened. >> >>> On Dec 14, 2014, at 11:52 AM, Stacey <crazystacey25@xxxxxxx >>> <mailto:crazystacey25@xxxxxxx>> wrote: >>> >>> U know that's a good question. Is it really Obama's concern to be getting >>> involved with this? Shouldn't he be dealing with more pressing matters? >>> Like isis? The situation in Missouri will be old news eventually, but I >>> think isis poses a larger threat to America than something small in >>> Missouri that shouldn't have caused such an up roar in the first place. >>> Michael Brown was in the wrong. They can't seem to grasp that idea. >>> On 12/14/2014 7:14 AM, Josh wrote: >>>> I have my thoughts on the matter. What President in history has ever >>>> gotten involved with a local police department’s incident? >>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 3:11 AM >>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town >>>> >>>> I don’t either. Maybe only just starting. >>>> On Dec 14, 2014, at 1:26 AM, Stacey <crazystacey25@xxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:crazystacey25@xxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I just think the whole thing is rediculous to be honest with u. All this >>>> protesting and fighting. I have a sneaky feeling things aren't over yet. >>>> veOn 12/13/2014 10:43 PM, Thomas McMahan wrote: >>>> No it isn’t but it furthers certain agendas. The people wanting to push >>>> said agenda have tried it for the past several years but all cases fell >>>> apart. These that are going on now probably will too. The people in >>>> power will pay lip service to the protesters until it actually threatens >>>> them, then watch out. >>>> >>>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 10:34 PM, Stacey <crazystacey25@xxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:crazystacey25@xxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Personally, I think that Michael Brown was in the wrong. The police >>>> officer was defending himself. Why can't some people get that through >>>> their heads? Is fighting and protesting really gonna solve anything? >>>> On 12/13/2014 10:10 PM, Thomas McMahan wrote: >>>> I remember when Lou Henson left Illinois or retired out some of them were >>>> hoping that the Illini would hire Bruce Pearl on, well they didn’t glad >>>> they didn’t. They were already in trouble, he would have probably gotten >>>> them in more trouble. >>>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 8:33 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Oh yeah the NCAA has to be who you know. Take a look at Lane Kieffan, he >>>> leaves and who suffers. I belive the same was true with Bruce Pearl and >>>> the basketball program. Even after Bruce was penalized from coaching, I >>>> think UT suffered penalties. Of course there are going to be some >>>> reprocussions on the program just because the coach is connected, but in a >>>> way I think our teams suffered more than the coaches. Probably just a >>>> biased opinion, but ya know. >>>> Penn State incident is a pathetic joke. There is no way >>>> that it could have went on that long and the situations continued without >>>> someone speaking up about it. >>>> The whole concept of innocent until proven guilty does not >>>> apply anymore. The concept is now guilty until you prove yourself >>>> innocent. Even if the Criminal Justice System sees you as innocent until >>>> proven guilty, the rest >>>> of the public are ready to hang you before they even hear the evidence. A >>>> clear example of this occurred the other day in class. After the Grand >>>> Jury came back with a not guilty verdict in Ferguson my professor asked >>>> the classs what they thought about the incident. The responses were well >>>> they knew if they found him not guilty they were going to have a riot, >>>> they should have just found him guilty to keep the rioting from occurring, >>>> he was wrong for shooting Michael Brown, etc. However, not one person made >>>> a comment regarding the evidence in the case. If you do not follow the >>>> directions of the police expect to be met with reprocussions. If you try >>>> to get the officers gun expect to get shot because I can guarantee that if >>>> all these sideline judges were put in this same situation they would want >>>> to go home to their family as well and not sit idly by and let some random >>>> citizen adolescent or adult take their gun to shoot them with it. It is >>>> insane the autopsy was done, and then if I am not mistaken Obuma was not >>>> satisfied with the results so he ordered another autopsy, and I think >>>> there were a few more autopsies done before they moved forward. How can >>>> you convict a person that was engaging in self defense? >>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan >>>> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 3:55 PM >>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town >>>> >>>> Unfortunately it sounds like in some of >>>> On the sports media down there they are already convicted. Sounds like a >>>> convoluted case to me, but I’m sure a lot of them are anyway. >>>> >>>> Then the NCAA will probably want to threaten UT and the whole 9 yards, yet >>>> Pen State gets off pretty easy. There’s still a lot of idiots around >>>> there that think that school is blameless and inocent with what went on >>>> there. Maybe UT should have set up in a much more isolated spot like Pen >>>> State did. Of course I’m being a smart ass about that, but that is >>>> partially how Pen State has gotten >>>> away with a lot more for much longer. A definite little >>>> theefdom there. Meanwhile schools like OSU get nailed for a lot less and >>>> get threatened with the chop. Makes Illinois’s recruiting violation back >>>> in the early 90s look like chump change too, yet they were threatened with >>>> full shut down of all sports activity. I guess it’s who you know in the >>>> NCAA. Which seems to me to be as clean as the driven slush. I guess in >>>> the whole UT situation it was the school that stepped in and sat them >>>> down, but don’t know all of the details of the whole deal. Guess we’ll >>>> hear something though if they decide to pursue a case on them. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dec 13, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Very true. Right now UT is in the hot seat regarding rape allegations >>>> against two of the football players. I just read today that one of the >>>> girl’s boyfriends is on the football team as well. I read on that the >>>> boyfriend caught her, and the girl is on the rowing team. So, there are >>>> more elements to the story, but KPD announced last night that there >>>> investigation was complete and being sent to the D.A.’s office to see >>>> if charges will be >>>> pursued. It is a tragic situation either way because if they are guilty >>>> then they have not only ruined their careers, but also ruined the victims >>>> lives. If they are not guilty, then I would say there will not be a >>>> decision until after the bowl game which will prevent them from playing in >>>> the game. Not too mention that if they are found not guilty there will >>>> still be people holding it against them. So, either way it is a major >>>> black mark on these players. >>>> >>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:58 PM >>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town >>>> >>>> But a QB who knows how to tuck and run is often not noticed until he’s >>>> gotten 10 yards down the field if he can pull off the fake. If they then >>>> concentrate to much attention looking for him to run then he then is able >>>> to either use a running back or tail back or pass. Thats why option >>>> offense is harder to defend. You have to have a QB that can take some >>>> punishment though, no frail guys as QB, or guys who can’t work outside of >>>> a pocket of protection. For those it’s a disaster for them to try to run >>>> the ball themselves. Does though is in pretty good shape physically. >>>> He’s taken sacks pretty well already this year too. There have been a few >>>> reckless plays, but learning from them will cure those. But that whole >>>> offense well really the whole team is having to learn because there’s so >>>> many freshman on that team this year. They are already coming together as >>>> a unit pretty good, could be quite interesting even in a couple of years, >>>> let alone 3 years from now. >>>> >>>> On Dec 10, 2014, at 8:44 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I would say the QB also then becomes a target for the rest of the teams to >>>> take out. So, he needs to be careful or he will be a true red shirt. >>>> >>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 3:50 PM >>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town >>>> >>>> He did play in the Bamma game, but he wasn’t the starter I don’t think. I >>>> think they would have at least taken Florida though, and maybe Georgia, >>>> and that would have changed things a lot for U T. Dobs fits in to the >>>> type of offense that Butch Jones likes to run which of course is an option >>>> heavy offense. No problem with that, because your QB becomes a direct >>>> offensive weapon at that point. It is either going to work or not. There >>>> isn’t a middle ground, usually it works though. >>>> On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>> >>>> It does sound like interesting things are happening. I have a feeling that >>>> if Josh Dobbs was in at the first of the year the florida game and the >>>> Georgia game would have looked much different. I cannot remember if Dobbs >>>> played during the Alabama game or not, but I know all their games were >>>> close calls this past season. >>>> >>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:43 AM >>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town >>>> >>>> Even more surprising is that Illinois managed to get in also. Won just >>>> enough games in Big 10 this year. It’s been a long time. >>>> >>>> Interesting baseball trades going on today too. Sox are definitely >>>> getting aggressive about trading. Picked up a closer something that they >>>> didn’t have last year because the guy they wanted to be closer was hurt >>>> early. Then they turn around and pick up Semarja to beef up their >>>> starting rotation. Cubs have already been dealing, they don’t have many >>>> secrets as to who they are wanting, although the Lester deal hasn’t >>>> happened yet. But if they pick him up that will anchor their starting >>>> rotation quite a bit too. >>>> >>>> As for TN, I still say thats a team to be watching out for. The SEC east >>>> isn’t a super strong devision, it can be taken and not have to get around >>>> a team like Alabama.Depends on recruiting but they’ve already improved >>>> over last year’s team despite injuries etc. They don’t give up, unlike >>>> the Chicago Bears who seeo just curl up in a ball. >>>> >>>> Illini basketball is looking pretty interesting this year too and they’ve >>>> already landed a major recruit to start next year. Lots of things on the >>>> sports plate, something that is needed since Da Bears are so bad this >>>> year. >>>> On Dec 9, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Well, we managed to get into a bowl game this year. Butch just got a pay >>>> raise and a contract extension. >>>> >>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan >>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 2:59 AM >>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town >>>> >>>> Yep, keep an eye on those Vols, they are going to be heard in the next >>>> year tr two seriously the way things are going. They’ve had a lot of >>>> injuries, but still manage to keep on going to some degree. >>>> >>>> Yes the style of offense they play actually fits Dobs better than the guy >>>> they had start the year, Dobs himself becomes a weapon because he can take >>>> more punishment running the ball himself. Even in the Bama game they >>>> did’t give up even though Bama got a two score lead within the first >>>> couple of minutes of the game. >>>> >>>> Yes this whole internet thing is a great invention, have listened to more >>>> Tennessee games this year than Illinois games, although I did hear the >>>> Illini Gofers game and like everybody else was surprised they actually >>>> pulled that one off. I bet the Gofers were surprised the most coming in >>>> with only 1 Big 10 loss at the time. Think they looked over the Illini >>>> and got burned on that one. Well it serves them right they derailed the >>>> Illini a number of times in the past. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 18, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I can’t comment on NFL, but I am proud of what I have seen out of the Vols >>>> this year. It hasn’t been a stellar season, but the games we have played >>>> haven’t been blow outs either. In fact I heard yesterday I guess it was >>>> one more win for the Vols and we will be going to a bowl game. I wish they >>>> had of put Josh Dobbs in earlier in the season rather than redshirting him >>>> as it may have caused more upsets especially with Muschimp and those >>>> Gators. Sorry for the hi-jack, but I am known for hijacking post. Right? >>>> *LOL* >>>> >>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan >>>> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 5:39 PM >>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town >>>> >>>> The Bears have done a lot of that loosing this year especially to teams >>>> that logically would be worse than them. Up until yesterday even playing >>>> at home wasn’t helping them out. But the NFL this year is completely >>>> goofy anyway. >>>> >>>> On Nov 17, 2014, at 10:25 AM, BethAnn LaPresta (Redacted sender >>>> "bela28_02@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:bela28_02@xxxxxxxxx>" for DMARC) >>>> <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi everyone. Nothing exciting on this end, just working and trying to do >>>> some projects around the house for the appraisal...trying to refinance and >>>> get some cash out of the house to pay for it all. LOL >>>> >>>> My oldest turned 29 on Friday and apparently ate the entire jello cake >>>> yesterday (with the exception of 3 pieces I made him share with his >>>> friends/brother). The Seattle Seahawks lost, so I left right after that >>>> to avoid the inevitable "crabby" that would be expressed about the loss. >>>> >>>> Hope you all have a Happy Thanksgiving! >>>> BethAnn >>>> >>>> From: Heather H <copperlee73@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:copperlee73@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> >>>> To: "audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>" >>>> <audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> >>>> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 10:35 PM >>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town >>>> >>>> Hello, Josh and Tom. Everything is okay here in snowy Ohio. The snow is >>>> coming down here and I am looking forward to going out and playing in it >>>> with Selah. well, she will play...I wouldn't do anything so childish as >>>> that...lol >>>> >>>> Hope everyone who celebraates it, has a wonderful and blessed >>>> Thanksgiving. No turkey here of course...can't trust it. chicken and >>>> dumplings here for us. The store killed chicken little for this dish not >>>> me!!!! >>>> >>>> Hugs to you Bethie!!!!! Happy birthday to my oldest nephew who just >>>> turned 29. OMG, I'm old. Who let them grow up? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 16, 2014, at 11:56 PM, Thomas McMahan <shadowmonstrosity@xxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:shadowmonstrosity@xxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Nope you’re still in the list and so should everybody else bee, it’s just >>>> been dead quiet lately. >>>> >>>> Heather probably has the bus running again and she and George and Pete and >>>> who knows who else are probably driving around and stopping at Wal-marts >>>> in Canada again trying to get Liz’s attention. But I’m not sure they are >>>> going to get Liz’s attention *lol*. >>>> >>>> Got an e-mail from Suzi off list so know she’s alive too. BethAnn might >>>> be doing another batch of sessions of closet rap for her next album >>>> release or something, or she’s waiting to sell you a house Josh. It might >>>> be “the perfect place.” Or maybe not depends on who’s standard of >>>> perfection is being used perhaps. >>>> >>>> Don’t know about Don. Danny though is alive and well, eating lots and >>>> lots of cream corn, well probably every meal he eats is cream corn, >>>> because he doesn’t like it so he has been placed into the cream corn >>>> factor. >>>> >>>> Patti continues to improve bit by bit, gets a little more talkative over >>>> time at times. She has a couple of appointments coming in December, one >>>> is physical, the other is the Neurologist. But I’m thinking generally >>>> things will be going in the right direction for her as afar as they are >>>> concerned. >>>> >>>> On Nov 16, 2014, at 10:20 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> How is everyone doing? I have not seen any post from the list in a few >>>> weeks now. I am wondering if I have not gotten myself booted somehow >>>> unintentionally. I guess the last I seen any post was Tom and I >>>> interacting about the family issues. The issues are not a hundred percent, >>>> but I do feel that since Amanda stood up and stood her ground we have >>>> gotten more respect. Now, it seems as though we are actualy people and not >>>> servants. However, that could change at any moment. Well, we have our >>>> prequalification letter and have found a few houses that we are interested >>>> in. We have to call tomorrow and get a real estate agent. Getting the >>>> prequal was a bit ofa hassle though. Today Amanda and I went and bought >>>> little man some birthday presents and got his location reserved. Sometime >>>> this week we have to get the invitations filled-out. Amanda and I are in >>>> the home stretch of the semester and everything seems to be going alright. >>>> I am in one class where I will not know if I passed or failed until the >>>> final grade comes out since 50% of the points aren’t going to be figured >>>> until the end of the semester. Amanda as far as I know is doing fine in >>>> her classes, she has some projects that she is working on, but I belive >>>> they are going fine. So, as always we have a ton of things going on, but >>>> little time *LOL*. Have a good one and I hope to be able to read some list >>>> traffic here in a few days. Take care and chat later. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >