[audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town

  • From: "Josh" <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 21:33:47 -0500

Oh yeah the NCAA has to be who you know. Take a look at Lane Kieffan, he leaves 
and who suffers. I belive the same was true with Bruce Pearl and the basketball 
program. Even after Bruce was penalized from coaching, I think UT suffered 
penalties. Of course there are going to be some reprocussions on the program 
just because the coach is connected, but in a way I think our teams suffered 
more than the coaches. Probably just a biased opinion, but ya know.

                Penn State incident is a pathetic joke. There is no way that it 
could have went on that long and the situations continued without someone 
speaking up about it.     

                The whole concept of innocent until proven guilty does not 
apply anymore. The concept is now guilty until you prove yourself innocent. 
Even if the Criminal Justice System sees you as innocent until proven guilty, 
the rest of the public are ready to hang you before they even hear the 
evidence. A clear example of this occurred the other day in class. After the 
Grand Jury came back with a not guilty verdict in Ferguson my professor asked 
the classs what they thought about the incident. The responses were well they 
knew if they found him not guilty they were going to have a riot, they should 
have just found him guilty to keep the rioting from occurring, he was wrong for 
shooting Michael Brown, etc. However, not one person made a comment regarding 
the evidence in the case. If you do not follow the directions of the police 
expect to be met with reprocussions. If you try to get the officers gun expect 
to get shot because I can guarantee that if all these sideline judges were put 
in this same situation they would want to go home to their family as well and 
not sit idly by and let some random citizen adolescent or adult take their gun 
to shoot them with it. It is insane the autopsy was done, and then if I am not 
mistaken Obuma was not satisfied with the results so he ordered another 
autopsy, and I think there were a few more autopsies done before they moved 
forward. How can you convict a person that was engaging in self defense?   

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Unfortunately it sounds like in some of 

On the sports media down there they are already convicted.  Sounds like a 
convoluted case to me, but I’m sure a lot of them are anyway.  


Then the NCAA will probably want to threaten UT and the whole 9 yards, yet Pen 
State gets off pretty easy.  There’s still a lot of idiots around there that 
think that school is blameless and inocent with what went on there.  Maybe UT 
should have set up in a much more isolated spot like Pen State did.  Of course 
I’m being a smart ass about that, but that is partially how Pen State has 
gotten away with a lot more for much longer.  A definite little theefdom there. 
 Meanwhile schools like OSU get nailed for a lot less and get threatened with 
the chop.  Makes Illinois’s recruiting violation back in the early 90s look 
like chump change too, yet they were threatened with full shut down of all 
sports activity.  I guess it’s who you know in the NCAA.  Which seems to me to 
be as clean as the driven slush.  I guess in the whole UT situation it was the 
school that stepped in and sat them down, but don’t know all of the details of 
the whole deal.  Guess we’ll hear something though if they decide to pursue a 
case on them.  

Dec 13, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Very true. Right now UT is in the hot seat regarding rape allegations against 
two of the football players. I just read today that one of the girl’s 
boyfriends is on the football team as well. I read on that the boyfriend caught 
her, and the girl is on the rowing team. So, there are more elements to the 
story, but KPD announced last night that there investigation was complete and 
being sent to the D.A.’s office to see if charges will be pursued. It is a 
tragic situation either way because if they are guilty then they have not only 
ruined their careers, but also ruined the victims lives. If they are not 
guilty, then I would say there will not be a decision until after the bowl game 
which will prevent them from playing in the game. Not too mention that if they 
are found not guilty there will still be people holding it against them. So, 
either way it is a major black mark on these players.  


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But a QB who knows how to tuck and run is often not noticed until he’s gotten 
10 yards down the field if he can pull off the fake.  If they then concentrate 
to much attention looking for him to run then he then is able to either use a 
running back or tail back or pass.  Thats why option offense is harder to 
defend.  You have to have a QB that can take some punishment though, no frail 
guys as QB, or guys who can’t work outside of a pocket of protection.  For 
those it’s a disaster for them to try to run the ball themselves.  Does though 
is in pretty good shape physically.  He’s taken sacks pretty well already this 
year too.  There have been a few reckless plays, but learning from them will 
cure those.  But that whole offense well really the whole team is having to 
learn because there’s so many freshman on that team this year.  They are 
already coming together as a unit pretty good, could be quite interesting even 
in a couple of years, let alone 3 years from now.  


On Dec 10, 2014, at 8:44 PM, Josh < <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
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I would say the QB also then becomes a target for the rest of the teams to take 
out. So, he needs to be careful or he will be a true red shirt. 


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He did play in the Bamma game, but he wasn’t the starter I don’t think.  I 
think they would have at least taken Florida though, and maybe Georgia, and 
that would have changed things a lot for U T.  Dobs fits in to the type of 
offense that Butch Jones likes to run which of course is an option heavy 
offense.  No problem with that, because your QB becomes a direct offensive 
weapon at that point.  It is either going to work or not.  There isn’t a middle 
ground, usually it works though.  

On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Josh < <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
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It does sound like interesting things are happening. I have a feeling that if 
Josh Dobbs was in at the first of the year the florida game and the Georgia 
game would have looked much different. I cannot remember if Dobbs played during 
the Alabama game or not, but I know all their games were close calls this past 


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Even more surprising is that Illinois managed to get in also.  Won just enough 
games in Big 10 this year.  It’s been a long time.


Interesting baseball trades going on today too.  Sox are definitely getting 
aggressive about trading.  Picked up a closer something that they didn’t have 
last year because the guy they wanted to be closer was hurt early.  Then they 
turn around and pick up Semarja to beef up their starting rotation.  Cubs have 
already been dealing, they don’t have many secrets as to who they are wanting, 
although the Lester deal hasn’t happened yet.  But if they pick him up that 
will anchor their starting rotation quite a bit too.  


As for TN, I still say thats a team to be watching out for.  The SEC east isn’t 
a super strong devision, it can be taken and not have to get around a team like 
Alabama.Depends on recruiting but they’ve already improved over last year’s 
team despite injuries etc.  They don’t give up, unlike the Chicago Bears who 
seeo just curl up in a ball.  


Illini basketball is looking pretty interesting this year too and they’ve 
already landed a major recruit to start next year.  Lots of things on the 
sports plate, something that is needed since Da Bears are so bad this year.    

On Dec 9, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Josh < <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
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Well, we managed to get into a bowl game this year. Butch just got a pay raise 
and a contract extension.


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Yep, keep an eye on those Vols, they are going to be heard in the next year tr 
two seriously the way things are going.  They’ve had a lot of injuries, but 
still manage to keep on going to some degree.  


Yes the style of offense they play actually fits Dobs better than the guy they 
had start the year, Dobs himself becomes a weapon because he can take more 
punishment running the ball himself.  Even in the Bama game they did’t give up 
even though Bama got a two score lead within the first couple of minutes of the 


Yes this whole internet thing is a great invention, have listened to more 
Tennessee games this year than Illinois games, although I did hear the Illini 
Gofers game and like everybody else was surprised they actually pulled that one 
off.  I bet the Gofers were surprised the most coming in with only 1 Big 10 
loss at the time.  Think they looked over the Illini and got burned on that 
one.  Well it serves them right they derailed the Illini a number of times in 
the past.  



On Nov 18, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Josh < <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
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I can’t comment on NFL, but I am proud of what I have seen out of the Vols this 
year. It hasn’t been a stellar season, but the games we have played haven’t 
been blow outs either. In fact I heard yesterday I guess it was one more win 
for the Vols and we will be going to a bowl game. I wish they had of put Josh 
Dobbs in earlier in the season rather than redshirting him  as it may have 
caused more upsets especially with Muschimp and those Gators. Sorry for the 
hi-jack, but I am known for hijacking post. Right? *LOL*   


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The Bears have done a lot of that loosing this year especially to teams that 
logically would be worse than them.  Up until yesterday even playing at home 
wasn’t helping them out.  But the NFL this year is completely goofy anyway.  


On Nov 17, 2014, at 10:25 AM, BethAnn LaPresta (Redacted sender " 
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Hi everyone.  Nothing exciting on this end, just working and trying to do some 
projects around the house for the appraisal...trying to refinance and get some 
cash out of the house to pay for it all.   LOL


My oldest turned 29 on Friday and apparently ate the entire jello cake 
yesterday (with the exception of 3 pieces I made him share with his 
friends/brother).  The Seattle Seahawks lost, so I left right after that to 
avoid the inevitable "crabby" that would be expressed about the loss.


Hope you all have a Happy Thanksgiving!




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Hello, Josh and Tom.  Everything is okay here in snowy Ohio.  The snow is 
coming down here and I am looking forward to going out and playing in it with 
Selah.  well, she will play...I wouldn't do anything so childish as that...lol


Hope everyone who celebraates it, has a wonderful and blessed Thanksgiving.  No 
turkey here of course...can't trust it.  chicken and dumplings here for us.  
The store killed chicken little for this dish not me!!!!


Hugs to you Bethie!!!!!  Happy birthday to my oldest nephew who just turned 29. 
 OMG, I'm old.  Who let them grow up?  


Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 16, 2014, at 11:56 PM, Thomas McMahan < 
<mailto:shadowmonstrosity@xxxxxxx> shadowmonstrosity@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Nope you’re still in the list and so should everybody else bee, it’s just been 
dead quiet lately.  


Heather probably has the bus running again and she and George and Pete and who 
knows who else are probably driving around and stopping at Wal-marts in Canada 
again trying to get Liz’s attention.  But I’m not sure they are going to get 
Liz’s attention *lol*.  


Got an e-mail from Suzi off list so know she’s alive too.  BethAnn might be 
doing another batch of sessions of closet rap for her next album release or 
something, or she’s waiting to sell you a house Josh.  It might be “the perfect 
place.”  Or maybe not depends on who’s standard of perfection is being used 


Don’t know about Don.  Danny though is alive and well, eating lots and lots of 
cream corn, well probably every meal he eats is cream corn, because he doesn’t 
like it so he has been placed into the cream corn factor.  


Patti continues to improve bit by bit, gets a little more talkative over time 
at times.  She has a couple of appointments coming in December, one is 
physical, the other is the Neurologist.  But I’m thinking generally things will 
be going in the right direction for her as afar as they are concerned.  


On Nov 16, 2014, at 10:20 PM, Josh < <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
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  How is everyone doing? I have not seen any post from the list in a few weeks 
now. I am wondering if I have not gotten myself booted somehow unintentionally. 
I guess the last I seen any post was Tom and I interacting about the family 
issues. The issues are not a hundred percent, but I do feel that since Amanda 
stood up and stood her ground we have gotten more respect. Now, it seems as 
though we are actualy people and not servants. However, that could change at 
any moment. Well, we have our prequalification letter and have found a few 
houses that we are interested in. We have to call tomorrow and get a real 
estate agent. Getting the prequal was a bit ofa hassle though. Today Amanda and 
I went and bought little man some birthday presents and got his location 
reserved. Sometime this week we have to get the invitations filled-out. Amanda 
and I are in the home stretch of the semester and everything seems to be going 
alright. I am in one class where I will not know if I passed or failed until 
the final grade comes out since 50% of the points aren’t going to be figured 
until the end of the semester. Amanda as far as I know is doing fine in her 
classes, she has some projects that she is working on, but I belive they are 
going fine. So, as always we have a ton of things going on, but little time 
*LOL*. Have a good one and I hope to be able to read some list traffic here in 
a few days. Take care and chat later.      


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