I agree with u, the state should have taken care of that. Makes me wonder what state officials were thinking. Did they like have their heads in the clouds hoping this would just go away? Because it doesn't work like that.
On 12/14/2014 3:15 PM, Thomas McMahan wrote:
It’s setting a dangerous pressedent thats for sure, but some other things that have been done lately also stretch boundaries.Should have been handled by the State, they have their Militia they can call up, and had it called up, but hadn’t had them moved to Ferguson. Sort of like Bengazzi in a way, but don’t know if the delay was from the Feds or the State. Chicago was ready when the UN did their thing a couple of years ago, they weren’t going to put up with masses of folks getting out of line. They usually don’t. But listening to the media back then you would have thought they were going to come and it would be the end of the world as we know it. Well they were able to do their protesting and parading, but any that got out of line quickly found themselves isolated and boxed in by the law and then whatever they were doing stopped quick.Of course those protesters probably weren’t interested in burning down neighborhoods, but if they hadn’t have been ready for them something like that could have eventually happened.On Dec 14, 2014, at 11:52 AM, Stacey <crazystacey25@xxxxxxx <mailto:crazystacey25@xxxxxxx>> wrote:U know that's a good question. Is it really Obama's concern to be getting involved with this? Shouldn't he be dealing with more pressing matters? Like isis? The situation in Missouri will be old news eventually, but I think isis poses a larger threat to America than something small in Missouri that shouldn't have caused such an up roar in the first place. Michael Brown was in the wrong. They can't seem to grasp that idea.On 12/14/2014 7:14 AM, Josh wrote:*I have my thoughts on the matter. What President in history has ever gotten involved with a local police department’s incident?* *From:*audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]*On Behalf Of*Thomas McMahan*Sent:*Sunday, December 14, 2014 3:11 AM *To:*audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx *Subject:*[audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town I don’t either. Maybe only just starting. On Dec 14, 2014, at 1:26 AM, Stacey <crazystacey25@xxxxxxx <mailto:crazystacey25@xxxxxxx>> wrote: I just think the whole thing is rediculous to be honest with u. All this protesting and fighting. I have a sneaky feeling things aren't over yet. veOn 12/13/2014 10:43 PM, Thomas McMahan wrote: No it isn’t but it furthers certain agendas. The people wanting to push said agenda have tried it for the past several years but all cases fell apart. These that are going on now probably will too. The people in power will pay lip service to the protesters until it actually threatens them, then watch out. On Dec 13, 2014, at 10:34 PM, Stacey <crazystacey25@xxxxxxx <mailto:crazystacey25@xxxxxxx>> wrote: Personally, I think that Michael Brown was in the wrong. The police officer was defending himself. Why can't some people get that through their heads? Is fighting and protesting really gonna solve anything? On 12/13/2014 10:10 PM, Thomas McMahan wrote: I remember when Lou Henson left Illinois or retired out some of them were hoping that the Illini would hire Bruce Pearl on, well they didn’t glad they didn’t. They were already in trouble, he would have probably gotten them in more trouble. On Dec 13, 2014, at 8:33 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: Oh yeah the NCAA has to be who you know. Take a look at Lane Kieffan, he leaves and who suffers. I belive the same was true with Bruce Pearl and the basketball program. Even after Bruce was penalized from coaching, I think UT suffered penalties. Of course there are going to be some reprocussions on the program just because the coach is connected, but in a way I think our teams suffered more than the coaches. Probably just a biased opinion, but ya know. Penn State incident is a pathetic joke. There is no way that it could have went on that long and the situations continued without someone speaking up about it. The whole concept of innocent until proven guilty does not apply anymore. The concept is now guilty until you prove yourself innocent. Even if the Criminal Justice System sees you as innocent until proven guilty, the rest of the public are ready to hang you before they even hear the evidence. A clear example of this occurred the other day in class. After the Grand Jury came back with a not guilty verdict in Ferguson my professor asked the classs what they thought about the incident. The responses were well they knew if they found him not guilty they were going to have a riot, they should have just found him guilty to keep the rioting from occurring, he was wrong for shooting Michael Brown, etc. However, not one person made a comment regarding the evidence in the case. If you do not follow the directions of the police expect to be met with reprocussions. If you try to get the officers gun expect to get shot because I can guarantee that if all these sideline judges were put in this same situation they would want to go home to their family as well and not sit idly by and let some random citizen adolescent or adult take their gun to shoot them with it. It is insane the autopsy was done, and then if I am not mistaken Obuma was not satisfied with the results so he ordered another autopsy, and I think there were a few more autopsies done before they moved forward. How can you convict a person that was engaging in self defense? *From:*audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>[mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]*On Behalf Of*Thomas McMahan *Sent:*Saturday, December 13, 2014 3:55 PM *To:*audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> *Subject:*[audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town Unfortunately it sounds like in some of On the sports media down there they are already convicted. Sounds like a convoluted case to me, but I’m sure a lot of them are anyway. Then the NCAA will probably want to threaten UT and the whole 9 yards, yet Pen State gets off pretty easy. There’s still a lot of idiots around there that think that school is blameless and inocent with what went on there. Maybe UT should have set up in a much more isolated spot like Pen State did. Of course I’m being a smart ass about that, but that is partially how Pen State has gotten away with a lot more for much longer. A definite little theefdom there. Meanwhile schools like OSU get nailed for a lot less and get threatened with the chop. Makes Illinois’s recruiting violation back in the early 90s look like chump change too, yet they were threatened with full shut down of all sports activity. I guess it’s who you know in the NCAA. Which seems to me to be as clean as the driven slush. I guess in the whole UT situation it was the school that stepped in and sat them down, but don’t know all of the details of the whole deal. Guess we’ll hear something though if they decide to pursue a case on them. Dec 13, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: Very true. Right now UT is in the hot seat regarding rape allegations against two of the football players. I just read today that one of the girl’s boyfriends is on the football team as well. I read on that the boyfriend caught her, and the girl is on the rowing team. So, there are more elements to the story, but KPD announced last night that there investigation was complete and being sent to the D.A.’s office to see if charges will be pursued. It is a tragic situation either way because if they are guilty then they have not only ruined their careers, but also ruined the victims lives. If they are not guilty, then I would say there will not be a decision until after the bowl game which will prevent them from playing in the game. Not too mention that if they are found not guilty there will still be people holding it against them. So, either way it is a major black mark on these players. *From:*audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>[mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]*On Behalf Of*Thomas McMahan *Sent:*Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:58 PM *To:*audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> *Subject:*[audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town But a QB who knows how to tuck and run is often not noticed until he’s gotten 10 yards down the field if he can pull off the fake. If they then concentrate to much attention looking for him to run then he then is able to either use a running back or tail back or pass. Thats why option offense is harder to defend. You have to have a QB that can take some punishment though, no frail guys as QB, or guys who can’t work outside of a pocket of protection. For those it’s a disaster for them to try to run the ball themselves. Does though is in pretty good shape physically. He’s taken sacks pretty well already this year too. There have been a few reckless plays, but learning from them will cure those. But that whole offense well really the whole team is having to learn because there’s so many freshman on that team this year. They are already coming together as a unit pretty good, could be quite interesting even in a couple of years, let alone 3 years from now. On Dec 10, 2014, at 8:44 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: I would say the QB also then becomes a target for the rest of the teams to take out. So, he needs to be careful or he will be a true red shirt. *From:*audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>[mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]*On Behalf Of*Thomas McMahan *Sent:*Tuesday, December 9, 2014 3:50 PM *To:*audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> *Subject:*[audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town He did play in the Bamma game, but he wasn’t the starter I don’t think. I think they would have at least taken Florida though, and maybe Georgia, and that would have changed things a lot for U T. Dobs fits in to the type of offense that Butch Jones likes to run which of course is an option heavy offense. No problem with that, because your QB becomes a direct offensive weapon at that point. It is either going to work or not. There isn’t a middle ground, usually it works though. On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: It does sound like interesting things are happening. I have a feeling that if Josh Dobbs was in at the first of the year the florida game and the Georgia game would have looked much different. I cannot remember if Dobbs played during the Alabama game or not, but I know all their games were close calls this past season. *From:*audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>[mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]*On Behalf Of*Thomas McMahan *Sent:*Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:43 AM *To:*audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> *Subject:*[audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town Even more surprising is that Illinois managed to get in also. Won just enough games in Big 10 this year. It’s been a long time. Interesting baseball trades going on today too. Sox are definitely getting aggressive about trading. Picked up a closer something that they didn’t have last year because the guy they wanted to be closer was hurt early. Then they turn around and pick up Semarja to beef up their starting rotation. Cubs have already been dealing, they don’t have many secrets as to who they are wanting, although the Lester deal hasn’t happened yet. But if they pick him up that will anchor their starting rotation quite a bit too. As for TN, I still say thats a team to be watching out for. The SEC east isn’t a super strong devision, it can be taken and not have to get around a team like Alabama.Depends on recruiting but they’ve already improved over last year’s team despite injuries etc. They don’t give up, unlike the Chicago Bears who seeo just curl up in a ball. Illini basketball is looking pretty interesting this year too and they’ve already landed a major recruit to start next year. Lots of things on the sports plate, something that is needed since Da Bears are so bad this year. On Dec 9, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: Well, we managed to get into a bowl game this year. Butch just got a pay raise and a contract extension. *From:*audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>[mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]*On Behalf Of*Thomas McMahan *Sent:*Wednesday, November 19, 2014 2:59 AM *To:*audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> *Subject:*[audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town Yep, keep an eye on those Vols, they are going to be heard in the next year tr two seriously the way things are going. They’ve had a lot of injuries, but still manage to keep on going to some degree. Yes the style of offense they play actually fits Dobs better than the guy they had start the year, Dobs himself becomes a weapon because he can take more punishment running the ball himself. Even in the Bama game they did’t give up even though Bama got a two score lead within the first couple of minutes of the game. Yes this whole internet thing is a great invention, have listened to more Tennessee games this year than Illinois games, although I did hear the Illini Gofers game and like everybody else was surprised they actually pulled that one off. I bet the Gofers were surprised the most coming in with only 1 Big 10 loss at the time. Think they looked over the Illini and got burned on that one. Well it serves them right they derailed the Illini a number of times in the past. On Nov 18, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: I can’t comment on NFL, but I am proud of what I have seen out of the Vols this year. It hasn’t been a stellar season, but the games we have played haven’t been blow outs either. In fact I heard yesterday I guess it was one more win for the Vols and we will be going to a bowl game. I wish they had of put Josh Dobbs in earlier in the season rather than redshirting him as it may have caused more upsets especially with Muschimp and those Gators. Sorry for the hi-jack, but I am known for hijacking post. Right? *LOL* *From:*audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>[mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]*On Behalf Of*Thomas McMahan *Sent:*Monday, November 17, 2014 5:39 PM *To:*audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> *Subject:*[audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town The Bears have done a lot of that loosing this year especially to teams that logically would be worse than them. Up until yesterday even playing at home wasn’t helping them out. But the NFL this year is completely goofy anyway. On Nov 17, 2014, at 10:25 AM, BethAnn LaPresta (Redacted sender "bela28_02@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:bela28_02@xxxxxxxxx>" for DMARC) <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: Hi everyone. Nothing exciting on this end, just working and trying to do some projects around the house for the appraisal...trying to refinance and get some cash out of the house to pay for it all. LOL My oldest turned 29 on Friday and apparently ate the entire jello cake yesterday (with the exception of 3 pieces I made him share with his friends/brother). The Seattle Seahawks lost, so I left right after that to avoid the inevitable "crabby" that would be expressed about the loss. Hope you all have a Happy Thanksgiving! BethAnn ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:*Heather H <copperlee73@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:copperlee73@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> *To:*"audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>" <audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> *Sent:*Sunday, November 16, 2014 10:35 PM *Subject:*[audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town Hello, Josh and Tom. Everything is okay here in snowy Ohio. The snow is coming down here and I am looking forward to going out and playing in it with Selah. well, she will play...I wouldn't do anything so childish as that...lol Hope everyone who celebraates it, has a wonderful and blessed Thanksgiving. No turkey here of course...can't trust it. chicken and dumplings here for us. The store killed chicken little for this dish not me!!!! Hugs to you Bethie!!!!! Happy birthday to my oldest nephew who just turned 29. OMG, I'm old. Who let them grow up? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 16, 2014, at 11:56 PM, Thomas McMahan <shadowmonstrosity@xxxxxxx <mailto:shadowmonstrosity@xxxxxxx>> wrote: Nope you’re still in the list and so should everybody else bee, it’s just been dead quiet lately. Heather probably has the bus running again and she and George and Pete and who knows who else are probably driving around and stopping at Wal-marts in Canada again trying to get Liz’s attention. But I’m not sure they are going to get Liz’s attention *lol*. Got an e-mail from Suzi off list so know she’s alive too. BethAnn might be doing another batch of sessions of closet rap for her next album release or something, or she’s waiting to sell you a house Josh. It might be “the perfect place.” Or maybe not depends on who’s standard of perfection is being used perhaps. Don’t know about Don. Danny though is alive and well, eating lots and lots of cream corn, well probably every meal he eats is cream corn, because he doesn’t like it so he has been placed into the cream corn factor. Patti continues to improve bit by bit, gets a little more talkative over time at times. She has a couple of appointments coming in December, one is physical, the other is the Neurologist. But I’m thinking generally things will be going in the right direction for her as afar as they are concerned. On Nov 16, 2014, at 10:20 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: Hello, How is everyone doing? I have not seen any post from the list in a few weeks now. I am wondering if I have not gotten myself booted somehow unintentionally. I guess the last I seen any post was Tom and I interacting about the family issues. The issues are not a hundred percent, but I do feel that since Amanda stood up and stood her ground we have gotten more respect. Now, it seems as though we are actualy people and not servants. However, that could change at any moment. Well, we have our prequalification letter and have found a few houses that we are interested in. We have to call tomorrow and get a real estate agent. Getting the prequal was a bit ofa hassle though. Today Amanda and I went and bought little man some birthday presents and got his location reserved. Sometime this week we have to get the invitations filled-out. Amanda and I are in the home stretch of the semester and everything seems to be going alright. I am in one class where I will not know if I passed or failed until the final grade comes out since 50% of the points aren’t going to be figured until the end of the semester. Amanda as far as I know is doing fine in her classes, she has some projects that she is working on, but I belive they are going fine. So, as always we have a ton of things going on, but little time **LOL**. Have a good one and I hope to be able to read some list traffic here in a few days. Take care and chat later.