[audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town

  • From: Stacey <crazystacey25@xxxxxxx>
  • To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 19:37:46 -0600

HMM that's probably true.
On 12/14/2014 6:09 PM, Thomas McMahan wrote:
Don’t think so, think there were other politics involved probably.

On Dec 14, 2014, at 4:16 PM, Stacey <crazystacey25@xxxxxxx <mailto:crazystacey25@xxxxxxx>> wrote:

I agree with u, the state should have taken care of that. Makes me wonder what state officials were thinking. Did they like have their heads in the clouds hoping this would just go away? Because it doesn't work like that.
On 12/14/2014 3:15 PM, Thomas McMahan wrote:
It’s setting a dangerous pressedent thats for sure, but some other things that have been done lately also stretch boundaries.

Should have been handled by the State, they have their Militia they can call up, and had it called up, but hadn’t had them moved to Ferguson. Sort of like Bengazzi in a way, but don’t know if the delay was from the Feds or the State. Chicago was ready when the UN did their thing a couple of years ago, they weren’t going to put up with masses of folks getting out of line. They usually don’t. But listening to the media back then you would have thought they were going to come and it would be the end of the world as we know it. Well they were able to do their protesting and parading, but any that got out of line quickly found themselves isolated and boxed in by the law and then whatever they were doing stopped quick.

Of course those protesters probably weren’t interested in burning down neighborhoods, but if they hadn’t have been ready for them something like that could have eventually happened.

On Dec 14, 2014, at 11:52 AM, Stacey <crazystacey25@xxxxxxx <mailto:crazystacey25@xxxxxxx>> wrote:

U know that's a good question. Is it really Obama's concern to be getting involved with this? Shouldn't he be dealing with more pressing matters? Like isis? The situation in Missouri will be old news eventually, but I think isis poses a larger threat to America than something small in Missouri that shouldn't have caused such an up roar in the first place. Michael Brown was in the wrong. They can't seem to grasp that idea.
On 12/14/2014 7:14 AM, Josh wrote:
*I have my thoughts on the matter. What President in history has ever gotten involved with a local police department’s incident?* *From:*audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]*On Behalf Of*Thomas McMahan
*Sent:*Sunday, December 14, 2014 3:11 AM
*Subject:*[audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
I don’t either.  Maybe only just starting.

    On Dec 14, 2014, at 1:26 AM, Stacey <crazystacey25@xxxxxxx
    <mailto:crazystacey25@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
    I just think the whole thing is rediculous to be honest with
    u. All this protesting and fighting. I have a sneaky feeling
    things aren't over yet.
    veOn 12/13/2014 10:43 PM, Thomas McMahan wrote:

        No it isn’t but it furthers certain agendas.  The people
        wanting to push said agenda have tried it for the past
        several years but all cases fell apart.  These that are
        going on now probably will too.  The people in power will
        pay lip service to the protesters until it actually
        threatens them, then watch out.

            On Dec 13, 2014, at 10:34 PM, Stacey
            <crazystacey25@xxxxxxx <mailto:crazystacey25@xxxxxxx>>
            Personally, I think that Michael Brown was in the
            wrong. The police officer was defending himself. Why
            can't some people get that through their heads? Is
            fighting and protesting really gonna solve anything?
            On 12/13/2014 10:10 PM, Thomas McMahan wrote:

                I remember when Lou Henson left Illinois or
                retired out some of them were hoping that the
                Illini would hire Bruce Pearl on, well they didn’t
                glad they didn’t.  They were already in trouble,
                he would have probably gotten them in more trouble.

                    On Dec 13, 2014, at 8:33 PM, Josh
                    <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
                    Oh yeah the NCAA has to be who you know. Take
                    a look at Lane Kieffan, he leaves and who
                    suffers. I belive the same was true with Bruce
                    Pearl and the basketball program. Even after
                    Bruce was penalized from coaching, I think UT
                    suffered penalties. Of course there are going
                    to be some reprocussions on the program just
                    because the coach is connected, but in a way I
                    think our teams suffered more than the
                    coaches. Probably just a biased opinion, but
                    ya know.
                    Penn State incident is a pathetic joke. There
                    is no way that it could have went on that long
                    and the situations continued without someone
                    speaking up about it.
                    The whole concept of innocent until proven
                    guilty does not apply anymore. The concept is
                    now guilty until you prove yourself innocent.
                    Even if the Criminal Justice System sees you
                    as innocent until proven guilty, the rest of
                    the public are ready to hang you before they
                    even hear the evidence. A clear example of
                    this occurred the other day in class. After
                    the Grand Jury came back with a not guilty
                    verdict in Ferguson my professor asked the
                    classs what they thought about the incident.
                    The responses were well they knew if they
                    found him not guilty they were going to have a
                    riot, they should have just found him guilty
                    to keep the rioting from occurring, he was
                    wrong for shooting Michael Brown, etc.
                    However, not one person made a comment
                    regarding the evidence in the case. If you do
                    not follow the directions of the police expect
                    to be met with reprocussions. If you try to
                    get the officers gun expect to get shot
                    because I can guarantee that if all these
                    sideline judges were put in this same
                    situation they would want to go home to their
                    family as well and not sit idly by and let
                    some random citizen adolescent or adult take
                    their gun to shoot them with it. It is insane
                    the autopsy was done, and then if I am not
                    mistaken Obuma was not satisfied with the
                    results so he ordered another autopsy, and I
                    think there were a few more autopsies done
                    before they moved forward. How can you convict
                    a person that was engaging in self defense?
                    Behalf Of*Thomas McMahan
                    *Sent:*Saturday, December 13, 2014 3:55 PM
                    *Subject:*[audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
                    Unfortunately it sounds like in some of

                        On the sports media down there they are
                        already convicted.  Sounds like a
                        convoluted case to me, but I’m sure a lot
                        of them are anyway.

                    Then the NCAA will probably want to threaten
                    UT and the whole 9 yards, yet Pen State gets
                    off pretty easy.  There’s still a lot of
                    idiots around there that think that school is
                    blameless and inocent with what went on there.
                     Maybe UT should have set up in a much more
                    isolated spot like Pen State did.  Of course
                    I’m being a smart ass about that, but that is
                    partially how Pen State has gotten away with a
                    lot more for much longer.  A definite little
                    theefdom there.  Meanwhile schools like OSU
                    get nailed for a lot less and get threatened
                    with the chop.  Makes Illinois’s recruiting
                    violation back in the early 90s look like
                    chump change too, yet they were threatened
                    with full shut down of all sports activity.  I
                    guess it’s who you know in the NCAA.  Which
                    seems to me to be as clean as the driven
                    slush.  I guess in the whole UT situation it
                    was the school that stepped in and sat them
                    down, but don’t know all of the details of the
                    whole deal.  Guess we’ll hear something though
                    if they decide to pursue a case on them.

                    Dec 13, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Josh
                    <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
                    Very true. Right now UT is in the hot seat
                    regarding rape allegations against two of the
                    football players. I just read today that one
                    of the girl’s boyfriends is on the football
                    team as well. I read on that the boyfriend
                    caught her, and the girl is on the rowing
                    team. So, there are more elements to the
                    story, but KPD announced last night that there
                    investigation was complete and being sent to
                    the D.A.’s office to see if charges will be
                    pursued. It is a tragic situation either way
                    because if they are guilty then they have not
                    only ruined their careers, but also ruined the
                    victims lives. If they are not guilty, then I
                    would say there will not be a decision until
                    after the bowl game which will prevent them
                    from playing in the game. Not too mention that
                    if they are found not guilty there will still
                    be people holding it against them. So, either
                    way it is a major black mark on these players.
                    Behalf Of*Thomas McMahan
                    *Sent:*Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:58 PM
                    *Subject:*[audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
                    But a QB who knows how to tuck and run is
                    often not noticed until he’s gotten 10 yards
                    down the field if he can pull off the fake.
                     If they then concentrate to much attention
                    looking for him to run then he then is able to
                    either use a running back or tail back or
                    pass.  Thats why option offense is harder to
                    defend.  You have to have a QB that can take
                    some punishment though, no frail guys as QB,
                    or guys who can’t work outside of a pocket of
                    protection.  For those it’s a disaster for
                    them to try to run the ball themselves.  Does
                    though is in pretty good shape physically.
                     He’s taken sacks pretty well already this
                    year too.  There have been a few reckless
                    plays, but learning from them will cure those.
                     But that whole offense well really the whole
                    team is having to learn because there’s so
                    many freshman on that team this year.  They
                    are already coming together as a unit pretty
                    good, could be quite interesting even in a
                    couple of years, let alone 3 years from now.

                        On Dec 10, 2014, at 8:44 PM, Josh
                        <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
                        I would say the QB also then becomes a
                        target for the rest of the teams to take
                        out. So, he needs to be careful or he will
                        be a true red shirt.
                        Behalf Of*Thomas McMahan
                        *Sent:*Tuesday, December 9, 2014 3:50 PM
                        *Subject:*[audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
                        He did play in the Bamma game, but he
                        wasn’t the starter I don’t think.  I think
                        they would have at least taken Florida
                        though, and maybe Georgia, and that would
                        have changed things a lot for U T.  Dobs
                        fits in to the type of offense that Butch
                        Jones likes to run which of course is an
                        option heavy offense.  No problem with
                        that, because your QB becomes a direct
                        offensive weapon at that point.  It is
                        either going to work or not.  There isn’t
                        a middle ground, usually it works though.

                            On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Josh
                            <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
                            It does sound like interesting things
                            are happening. I have a feeling that
                            if Josh Dobbs was in at the first of
                            the year the florida game and the
                            Georgia game would have looked much
                            different. I cannot remember if Dobbs
                            played during the Alabama game or not,
                            but I know all their games were close
                            calls this past season.
                            Behalf Of*Thomas McMahan
                            *Sent:*Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:43 AM
                            *Subject:*[audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
                            Even more surprising is that Illinois
                            managed to get in also.  Won just
                            enough games in Big 10 this year.
                             It’s been a long time.
                            Interesting baseball trades going on
                            today too.  Sox are definitely getting
                            aggressive about trading.  Picked up a
                            closer something that they didn’t have
                            last year because the guy they wanted
                            to be closer was hurt early.  Then
                            they turn around and pick up Semarja
                            to beef up their starting rotation.
                             Cubs have already been dealing, they
                            don’t have many secrets as to who they
                            are wanting, although the Lester deal
                            hasn’t happened yet.  But if they pick
                            him up that will anchor their starting
                            rotation quite a bit too.
                            As for TN, I still say thats a team to
                            be watching out for.  The SEC east
                            isn’t a super strong devision, it can
                            be taken and not have to get around a
                            team like Alabama.Depends on
                            recruiting but they’ve already
                            improved over last year’s team despite
                            injuries etc.  They don’t give up,
                            unlike the Chicago Bears who seeo just
                            curl up in a ball.
                            Illini basketball is looking pretty
                            interesting this year too and they’ve
                            already landed a major recruit to
                            start next year.  Lots of things on
                            the sports plate, something that is
                            needed since Da Bears are so bad this

                                On Dec 9, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Josh
                                <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
                                Well, we managed to get into a
                                bowl game this year. Butch just
                                got a pay raise and a contract
                                Behalf Of*Thomas McMahan
                                *Sent:*Wednesday, November 19,
                                2014 2:59 AM
                                *Subject:*[audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
                                Yep, keep an eye on those Vols,
                                they are going to be heard in the
                                next year tr two seriously the way
                                things are going.  They’ve had a
                                lot of injuries, but still manage
                                to keep on going to some degree.
                                Yes the style of offense they play
                                actually fits Dobs better than the
                                guy they had start the year, Dobs
                                himself becomes a weapon because
                                he can take more punishment
                                running the ball himself.  Even in
                                the Bama game they did’t give up
                                even though Bama got a two score
                                lead within the first couple of
                                minutes of the game.
                                Yes this whole internet thing is a
                                great invention, have listened to
                                more Tennessee games this year
                                than Illinois games, although I
                                did hear the Illini Gofers game
                                and like everybody else was
                                surprised they actually pulled
                                that one off.  I bet the Gofers
                                were surprised the most coming in
                                with only 1 Big 10 loss at the
                                time.  Think they looked over the
                                Illini and got burned on that one.
                                 Well it serves them right they
                                derailed the Illini a number of
                                times in the past.

                                    On Nov 18, 2014, at 6:58 PM,
                                    Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
                                    <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
                                    I can’t comment on NFL, but I
                                    am proud of what I have seen
                                    out of the Vols this year. It
                                    hasn’t been a stellar season,
                                    but the games we have played
                                    haven’t been blow outs either.
                                    In fact I heard yesterday I
                                    guess it was one more win for
                                    the Vols and we will be going
                                    to a bowl game. I wish they
                                    had of put Josh Dobbs in
                                    earlier in the season rather
                                    than redshirting him  as it
                                    may have caused more upsets
                                    especially with Muschimp and
                                    those Gators. Sorry for the
                                    hi-jack, but I am known for
                                    hijacking post. Right? *LOL*
                                    Behalf Of*Thomas McMahan
                                    *Sent:*Monday, November 17,
                                    2014 5:39 PM
                                    *Subject:*[audio-pals] Re:
                                    Ghost Town
                                    The Bears have done a lot of
                                    that loosing this year
                                    especially to teams that
                                    logically would be worse than
                                    them.  Up until yesterday even
                                    playing at home wasn’t helping
                                    them out.  But the NFL this
                                    year is completely goofy anyway.

                                        On Nov 17, 2014, at 10:25
                                        AM, BethAnn LaPresta
                                        (Redacted sender
                                        for DMARC)
                                        Hi everyone. Nothing
                                        exciting on this end, just
                                        working and trying to do
                                        some projects around the
                                        house for the
                                        appraisal...trying to
                                        refinance and get some
                                        cash out of the house to
                                        pay for it all.   LOL
                                        My oldest turned 29 on
                                        Friday and apparently ate
                                        the entire jello cake
                                        yesterday (with the
                                        exception of 3 pieces I
                                        made him share with his
                                        friends/brother). The
                                        Seattle Seahawks lost, so
                                        I left right after that to
                                        avoid the inevitable
                                        "crabby" that would be
                                        expressed about the loss.
                                        Hope you all have a Happy
                                        *From:*Heather H
                                        *Sent:*Sunday, November
                                        16, 2014 10:35 PM
                                        *Subject:*[audio-pals] Re:
                                        Ghost Town
                                        Hello, Josh and Tom.
                                         Everything is okay here
                                        in snowy Ohio.  The snow
                                        is coming down here and I
                                        am looking forward to
                                        going out and playing in
                                        it with Selah.  well, she
                                        will play...I wouldn't do
                                        anything so childish as
                                        Hope everyone who
                                        celebraates it, has a
                                        wonderful and blessed
                                        Thanksgiving.  No turkey
                                        here of course...can't
                                        trust it.  chicken and
                                        dumplings here for us.
                                         The store killed chicken
                                        little for this dish not
                                        Hugs to you Bethie!!!!!
                                         Happy birthday to my
                                        oldest nephew who just
                                        turned 29.  OMG, I'm old.
                                         Who let them grow up?

                                        Sent from my iPhone

                                        On Nov 16, 2014, at 11:56
                                        PM, Thomas McMahan

                                        Nope you’re still in the
                                        list and so should
                                        everybody else bee, it’s
                                        just been dead quiet lately.
                                        Heather probably has the
                                        bus running again and she
                                        and George and Pete and
                                        who knows who else are
                                        probably driving around
                                        and stopping at Wal-marts
                                        in Canada again trying to
                                        get Liz’s attention.  But
                                        I’m not sure they are
                                        going to get Liz’s
                                        attention *lol*.
                                        Got an e-mail from Suzi
                                        off list so know she’s
                                        alive too.  BethAnn might
                                        be doing another batch of
                                        sessions of closet rap for
                                        her next album release or
                                        something, or she’s
                                        waiting to sell you a
                                        house Josh.  It might be
                                        “the perfect place.”  Or
                                        maybe not depends on who’s
                                        standard of perfection is
                                        being used perhaps.
                                        Don’t know about Don.
                                         Danny though is alive and
                                        well, eating lots and lots
                                        of cream corn, well
                                        probably every meal he
                                        eats is cream corn,
                                        because he doesn’t like it
                                        so he has been placed into
                                        the cream corn factor.
                                        Patti continues to improve
                                        bit by bit, gets a little
                                        more talkative over time
                                        at times.  She has a
                                        couple of appointments
                                        coming in December, one is
                                        physical, the other is the
                                        Neurologist.  But I’m
                                        thinking generally things
                                        will be going in the right
                                        direction for her as afar
                                        as they are concerned.

                                            On Nov 16, 2014, at
                                            10:20 PM, Josh
                                            How is everyone doing?
                                            I have not seen any
                                            post from the list in
                                            a few weeks now. I am
                                            wondering if I have
                                            not gotten myself
                                            booted somehow
                                            unintentionally. I
                                            guess the last I seen
                                            any post was Tom and I
                                            interacting about the
                                            family issues. The
                                            issues are not a
                                            hundred percent, but I
                                            do feel that since
                                            Amanda stood up and
                                            stood her ground we
                                            have gotten more
                                            respect. Now, it seems
                                            as though we are
                                            actualy people and not
                                            servants. However,
                                            that could change at
                                            any moment. Well, we
                                            have our
                                            letter and have found
                                            a few houses that we
                                            are interested in. We
                                            have to call tomorrow
                                            and get a real estate
                                            agent. Getting the
                                            prequal was a bit ofa
                                            hassle though. Today
                                            Amanda and I went and
                                            bought little man some
                                            birthday presents and
                                            got his location
                                            reserved. Sometime
                                            this week we have to
                                            get the invitations
                                            filled-out. Amanda and
                                            I are in the home
                                            stretch of the
                                            semester and
                                            everything seems to be
                                            going alright. I am in
                                            one class where I will
                                            not know if I passed
                                            or failed until the
                                            final grade comes out
                                            since 50% of the
                                            points aren’t going to
                                            be figured until the
                                            end of the semester.
                                            Amanda as far as I
                                            know is doing fine in
                                            her classes, she has
                                            some projects that she
                                            is working on, but I
                                            belive they are going
                                            fine. So, as always we
                                            have a ton of things
                                            going on, but little
                                            time **LOL**. Have a
                                            good one and I hope to
                                            be able to read some
                                            list traffic here in a
                                            few days. Take care
                                            and chat later.

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