(VICT) Re: Alex- Dog Attack

  • From: Sheila Styron <sheilastyron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 10:29:35 -0500

I guess I find the whole issue of uncontrolled pet dogs roaming free so
serious that I would report my neighbors. Usually, these people don't
heed anyone's warnings anyhow, but at least the offenses will be on
record in the event of any more serious altercations taking place in the
future. This is the only way we can get the attention of authorities and
eventually maybe stiffen penalties and ultimately stronger enforcement.
I of course think your idea of circulating information is a positive
thing to do as well and might help persuade those who are on the fence
to be responsible pet owners and not allow their dogs to run loose,
unsupervised. 

Sheila Styron, President
Guide Dog Users, Inc.
816-363-3172
sheilastyron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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Subject: (VICT) Alex- Dog Attack


Hi all! I finally gave up getting the GDUI presentation to download on
my  
computer and got permission to download it to cd at work. One of the
reasons was 
 that Alex was "attacked" while coming home the other evening and while
she  
seemed to handle it fairly well, I was checking to see if there was
something  
else I could do or could have done. BTW, it was a good presentation! it
is at 
_www.gdui.org_ (http://www.gdui.org)  on the front page to download as a

audio file. Although if you have dial-up it might not download
properly..which  
was my problem.
 
One of the things I have talked about here was touched upon in the  
presentation. They said that many times a dog that is actively guiding
and not  paying 
attention to the other dog is less likely to be attacked and/or
injured.
 
I work actively with Alex on walking and working past fence fighting
dogs  
when I can.. Luckily for me we have some on the corner on the way to the
bus  
stop to practice with. Anyway, I have a cue called "On by" that is a cue
for her 
 to ignore their distraction and speed up forward. I use this on many  
distractions but it is most used for fence fighting dogs or other dogs
we  encounter 
on leash. It really helped the other day.
 
Alex and I have to go to the store every other day to buy dog food since
we  
are temporarily feeding kibble instead of raw and I cannot carry huge
bags of  
dog food easily. The danes and Alex eat 20 lbs every other day. Anyway
the 
idiot  bus driver missed my stop and ended up letting us off 3 blocks
past my 
stop. It  means jaywalking a major street and walking up a really steep
hill, 
but what the  heck, gotta do what you gotta do. Anyway we were just
coming to 
the top of the  hill and were about 3 houses from home when two (I
think) small 
dark dogs came  running out from the front porch and tried to attack
Alex. I 
was stumbling over  them and they were under Alex's feet..I cued Alex
"on by" 
and tried to keep  going .. hoping the owners would get the damned dogs.
Alex, 
bless her soul,  tried to do what I asked and did pretty good
considering. She 
just turned in her  harness and pulled to look back a few times after we
had 
gotten clear of them  and the owners had corralled them.. 
 
I hate owners who choose to have their dogs off leash and yet cannot
control 
them with voice commands..If they had run out and the owner had voice  
control , they could have called them back before the engaged Alex. I
firmly  
believe in the saying Unleashed is Unloved. Except where the dogs have
earned  the 
privilege of being off leash due to owner training.., anyway, off that  
soapbox...
 
We got to the house and , since she had handled that so well I took her

harness off immediately inside our gate and turned the sprinkler on..
her  
favorite reward.
 
Alex  and I went to get dog food again last night and we have  developed
a 
small problem that I hope some time and work will cure. We were  walking
to the 
bus stop and a small dog was being walked on leash and we had to  pass
it, of 
course it lunged out to the end of its leash although not  agressively
and 
Alex was a bit nervous. I cued On by and we went on to the bus  stop . 
Unfortunately they were following us and I had a little bit of a time
getting Alex to 
focus on work instead of them. She did do fine when we sat down  and the
little 
dog walked by on the side walk in front of us.. just a tiny  whine. On
the 
way back,we came in from our regular stop and some small dogs  opposite
the 
large fence-fighting dogs started barking and fence fighting.   Alex
lurched 
forward into her harness like she would for a on by cue but also  was
vocalizing a 
little with tiny yips and squeaks.. I dont want her to do that  at all.
I am 
going to ignore it and c/t quiet over the next few weeks and see  what
happens. 
She also pulled really hard on the last street cross to our gate.
Hopefully 
that was due to the sprinkler reward and not relief at getting  home..
 
I don't want to report the owners to animal control since they live 3
doors  
away and could cause problems but I do plan on dropping off some
information 
in  their mailbox about the penalties for off leash dogs and for
interfering 
with a  service animal.. actually I might just do that with the
surrounding 
neighborhood  too. A little public ed can't hurt. Hopefully it was a
one-time 
thing..  Hopefully, there won't be any long term issues either.
 
Any other ideas or thoughts?
 
 
Sandy Foushee
Infinite Paws-Abilities Training and Service  Dogs
Teamed with Alexandra Guide/Service Dog
Colorado Service/Assistance  Dog Club - Trainer.- 


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