(VICT) Re: Alex- Dog Attack

  • From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 13:19:39 -0400

Sandy, give Alex time, and give her positive experiences.  It took Judson 
about six months to truly relax around dogs after our dog attack.

Shelley L. Rhodes M.A., VRT, CTVI
and Guinevere, Golden lady Guide
juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
Graduate Alumni Association Board
www.guidedogs.com

More than Any other time, When i hold a beloved book in my hand, my 
limitations fall from me, my spirit is free.
- Helen Keller

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Infinitepaws@xxxxxxx>
To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 10:00 AM
Subject: (VICT) Alex- Dog Attack


Hi all! I finally gave up getting the GDUI presentation to download on my
computer and got permission to download it to cd at work. One of the reasons 
was
 that Alex was "attacked" while coming home the other evening and while she
seemed to handle it fairly well, I was checking to see if there was 
something
else I could do or could have done. BTW, it was a good presentation! it is 
at
_www.gdui.org_ (http://www.gdui.org)  on the front page to download as a
audio file. Although if you have dial-up it might not download 
properly..which
was my problem.

One of the things I have talked about here was touched upon in the
presentation. They said that many times a dog that is actively guiding and 
not  paying
attention to the other dog is less likely to be attacked and/or  injured.

I work actively with Alex on walking and working past fence fighting dogs
when I can.. Luckily for me we have some on the corner on the way to the bus
stop to practice with. Anyway, I have a cue called "On by" that is a cue for 
her
 to ignore their distraction and speed up forward. I use this on many
distractions but it is most used for fence fighting dogs or other dogs we 
encounter
on leash. It really helped the other day.

Alex and I have to go to the store every other day to buy dog food since we
are temporarily feeding kibble instead of raw and I cannot carry huge bags 
of
dog food easily. The danes and Alex eat 20 lbs every other day. Anyway the
idiot  bus driver missed my stop and ended up letting us off 3 blocks past 
my
stop. It  means jaywalking a major street and walking up a really steep 
hill,
but what the  heck, gotta do what you gotta do. Anyway we were just coming 
to
the top of the  hill and were about 3 houses from home when two (I think) 
small
dark dogs came  running out from the front porch and tried to attack Alex. I
was stumbling over  them and they were under Alex's feet..I cued Alex "on 
by"
and tried to keep  going .. hoping the owners would get the damned dogs. 
Alex,
bless her soul,  tried to do what I asked and did pretty good considering. 
She
just turned in her  harness and pulled to look back a few times after we had
gotten clear of them  and the owners had corralled them..

I hate owners who choose to have their dogs off leash and yet cannot 
control
them with voice commands..If they had run out and the owner had voice
control , they could have called them back before the engaged Alex. I firmly
believe in the saying Unleashed is Unloved. Except where the dogs have 
earned  the
privilege of being off leash due to owner training.., anyway, off that
soapbox...

We got to the house and , since she had handled that so well I took her
harness off immediately inside our gate and turned the sprinkler on.. her
favorite reward.

Alex  and I went to get dog food again last night and we have  developed a
small problem that I hope some time and work will cure. We were  walking to 
the
bus stop and a small dog was being walked on leash and we had to  pass it, 
of
course it lunged out to the end of its leash although not  agressively and
Alex was a bit nervous. I cued On by and we went on to the bus  stop .
Unfortunately they were following us and I had a little bit of a time 
getting Alex to
focus on work instead of them. She did do fine when we sat down  and the 
little
dog walked by on the side walk in front of us.. just a tiny  whine. On the
way back,we came in from our regular stop and some small dogs  opposite the
large fence-fighting dogs started barking and fence fighting.   Alex lurched
forward into her harness like she would for a on by cue but also  was 
vocalizing a
little with tiny yips and squeaks.. I dont want her to do that  at all. I am
going to ignore it and c/t quiet over the next few weeks and see  what 
happens.
She also pulled really hard on the last street cross to our gate.  Hopefully
that was due to the sprinkler reward and not relief at getting  home..

I don't want to report the owners to animal control since they live 3 doors
away and could cause problems but I do plan on dropping off some information
in  their mailbox about the penalties for off leash dogs and for interfering
with a  service animal.. actually I might just do that with the surrounding
neighborhood  too. A little public ed can't hurt. Hopefully it was a 
one-time
thing..  Hopefully, there won't be any long term issues either.

Any other ideas or thoughts?


Sandy Foushee
Infinite Paws-Abilities Training and Service  Dogs
Teamed with Alexandra Guide/Service Dog
Colorado Service/Assistance  Dog Club - Trainer.-


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