[project1dev] Re: OT: microsoft, secretly our friend?

  • From: CiD <screamingdazeez@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:26:23 -0700 (PDT)

Does that fall under the "Patriot Act"?  That is the biggest invasion of 
privacy I have ever seen go against the original constitution.  

--- On Wed, 3/31/10, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [project1dev] Re: OT: microsoft, secretly our friend?
To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 1:22 PM

oh, meant to say they are allowed to do that without a warrant or just cause or 
any of that.
 
also, part of the DMCA (digital multimedia copyright act) calls for search and 
seizure without a warrant.
 
The DMCA is the USA's implementation of a treaty that the WTO is behind.
 
I read this letter once where a US govt employee of some stature (like a 
diplomat or a state department person) was writing to some scandanavian country 
who refused to enact it into law due to the fact that it went against their 
country's constitution - which was based on ours!

 
plenty of crappy, injustice creating lamers out there ):

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


hrms...
 

the law is that the govt can supboena anyone for any information for any reason 
and you aren't allowed to say no, and in fact you aren't even allowed to talk 
about it happening.  Not even in a court of law (i wonder what would happen if 
you were asked under oath?)

 
So there is no legal recourse, until they screwed up and leaked an admission 
that they were doin it, kinda crazy:
 
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100331/1228088813.shtml




 
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Nick Klotz <roracsenshi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I am the neon tiger. 





On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:27 PM, eric drewes <figarus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


you would. 





On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Nick Klotz <roracsenshi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I like cops. 





On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:23 PM, eric drewes <figarus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 cops pulled me over 3x in the weeks after I was released just to "check in on 
me", rotten mother fuckers 





On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


I once had a friend who i'll call "Eric"
 
Me and him were chillin somewhere at night mindin our own business and some 
cops came and started talkin to us.
 
Long story short, he was peppersprayed, beaten (it took a cop around his middle 
and one on each arm to take him down), stomped a couple times neo nazi style 
when he was on the ground, and then arrested for resisting arrest.

 
He was in jail for 2 days i think and when they took him to court, they dropped 
the charges before the trial since they didn't actually have anything to try 
him with.
 
good times :P




On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:01 PM, eric drewes <figarus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

all joking aside though, im right there with you Cid, but i'd add more than 
just lawyers to the list of people dragged out of their overpriced stuffy 
offices :) 





On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:58 PM, eric drewes <figarus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

you dont like our justice system?  man, cops have never been anything but nice 
and helpful for me, i dont understand where the anti-gov sentiments come from 
;) 





On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:55 PM, CiD <screamingdazeez@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:





Smart man.  Something interesting is military law is different than civilian 
law under the same country umbrella of power.  I do not like our justice system 
and think lawyers should be dragged out of their overpriced, stuffy offices and 
stripped down to their skivvies and slapped with wet towels until they are 
severely red bodied and sent home to their mommas for instructions on how to 
properly share their milk chocolate with the rest of the class!


--- On Wed, 3/31/10, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


From: Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [project1dev] Re: OT: microsoft, secretly our friend?

To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 8:26 AM 





They must have some angle.

Like maybe they have something to hide that they dont want the govt to see or 
something.

I dont trust MSs intentions for 1 second :P


On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 8:04 AM, eric drewes <figarus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/49179-google-and-microsoft-call-for-greater-limits-on-government-snooping

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