[project1dev] Re: OT: microsoft, secretly our friend?

  • From: CiD <screamingdazeez@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:23:09 -0700 (PDT)

That is active in Lynnwood, WA right now.  The cameras look for cars passing 
through an intersection on a yellow light and not coming to a complete stop on 
right turn on red corners.  I got this ticket, tried to fight it (because it 
was a yellow light), and lost.  The government backs up businesses that provide 
them with money.  Hell, the government IS a business.  Isn't the United States 
of America copyrighted or listed as a business somewhere?

--- On Wed, 3/31/10, eric drewes <figarus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: eric drewes <figarus@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [project1dev] Re: OT: microsoft, secretly our friend?
To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 12:19 PM

hey i dunno if i posted to the list about this but there was recently an issue 
in my town where the city council (without approval of the voters) allowed a 
private corporation to install speed cameras in various locations throughout 
town.  the locations were scouted by the company in order to catch the most 
people speeding, not to help safety, etc, and it would automatically mail a 100 
dollar ticket to anyone going 5 miles per hour over the speed limit. There was 
an expensive and complicated appeals process that all but guaranteed that just 
paying the fine would be cheaper and easier.  OH, and did i mention the private 
company paid to have all the council members and the mayor up at an expensive 
resort for a week for their sales pitch?  this scam cost drivers 2 MILLION 
DOLLARS in fines in the first couple of months - money sucked out of the local 
economy and put into the pockets of the city with a big fat % going to the 
camera company!!!


i started a website called www.banthecameras.com and was involved with  getting 
the issue put on the ballot last november, not only were the cameras 
permanently banned from the city, but the mayor and the rest of the council 
members lost their jobs :) sometimes democracy works!!!


On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:08 PM, CiD <screamingdazeez@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Cops have a terribly over bloated ego and warped sense of the world.  They view 
EVERYONE as a criminal and only let some of us off with a warning.  They are 
the temporary judge and jury on the street.  Why the hell do we have to pay 
$150 speeding tickets for going a few miles over the speed limit?!?  Is law 
enforcement in cahoots with car companies that use analog speedometers?



--- On Wed, 3/31/10, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


From: Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [project1dev] Re: OT: microsoft, secretly our friend?
To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 12:04 PM

I once had a friend who i'll call "Eric"
 
Me and him were chillin somewhere at night mindin our own business and some 
cops came and started talkin to us.
 
Long story short, he was peppersprayed, beaten (it took a cop around his middle 
and one on each arm to take him down), stomped a couple times neo nazi style 
when he was on the ground, and then arrested for resisting arrest.


 
He was in jail for 2 days i think and when they took him to court, they dropped 
the charges before the trial since they didn't actually have anything to try 
him with.
 
good times :P

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:01 PM, eric drewes <figarus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

all joking aside though, im right there with you Cid, but i'd add more than 
just lawyers to the list of people dragged out of their overpriced stuffy 
offices :) 





On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:58 PM, eric drewes <figarus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

you dont like our justice system?  man, cops have never been anything but nice 
and helpful for me, i dont understand where the anti-gov sentiments come from 
;) 





On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:55 PM, CiD <screamingdazeez@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:






Smart man.  Something interesting is military law is different than civilian 
law under the same country umbrella of power.  I do not like our justice system 
and think lawyers should be dragged out of their overpriced, stuffy offices and 
stripped down to their skivvies and slapped with wet towels until they are 
severely red bodied and sent home to their mommas for instructions on how to 
properly share their milk chocolate with the rest of the class!



--- On Wed, 3/31/10, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


From: Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>

Subject: [project1dev] Re: OT: microsoft, secretly our friend?

To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 8:26 AM 





They must have some angle.

Like maybe they have something to hide that they dont want the govt to see or 
something.

I dont trust MSs intentions for 1 second :P


On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 8:04 AM, eric drewes <figarus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/49179-google-and-microsoft-call-for-greater-limits-on-government-snooping

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