I got a red light ticket from one of those in lynnwood too. when it happened i knew i had literally ran the red light (just barely but it was for sure) so i didnt bother fighting it. Totally sucks for you, wtf is up with that On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:23 AM, CiD <screamingdazeez@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > That is active in Lynnwood, WA right now. The cameras look for cars > passing through an intersection on a yellow light and not coming to a > complete stop on right turn on red corners. I got this ticket, tried to > fight it (because it was a yellow light), and lost. The government backs up > businesses that provide them with money. Hell, the government IS a > business. Isn't the United States of America copyrighted or listed as a > business somewhere? > > --- On *Wed, 3/31/10, eric drewes <figarus@xxxxxxxxx>* wrote: > > > From: eric drewes <figarus@xxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: [project1dev] Re: OT: microsoft, secretly our friend? > To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 12:19 PM > > > hey i dunno if i posted to the list about this but there was recently an > issue in my town where the city council (without approval of the voters) > allowed a private corporation to install speed cameras in various locations > throughout town. the locations were scouted by the company in order to > catch the most people speeding, not to help safety, etc, and it would > automatically mail a 100 dollar ticket to anyone going 5 miles per hour over > the speed limit. There was an expensive and complicated appeals process that > all but guaranteed that just paying the fine would be cheaper and easier. > OH, and did i mention the private company paid to have all the council > members and the mayor up at an expensive resort for a week for their sales > pitch? this scam cost drivers 2 MILLION DOLLARS in fines in the first > couple of months - money sucked out of the local economy and put into the > pockets of the city with a big fat % going to the camera company!!! > > i started a website called www.banthecameras.com and was involved with > getting the issue put on the ballot last november, not only were the cameras > permanently banned from the city, but the mayor and the rest of the council > members lost their jobs :) sometimes democracy works!!! > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:08 PM, CiD > <screamingdazeez@xxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=screamingdazeez@xxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > >> Cops have a terribly over bloated ego and warped sense of the world. >> They view EVERYONE as a criminal and only let some of us off with a >> warning. They are the temporary judge and jury on the street. Why the hell >> do we have to pay $150 speeding tickets for going a few miles over the speed >> limit?!? Is law enforcement in cahoots with car companies that use analog >> speedometers? >> >> >> >> --- On *Wed, 3/31/10, Alan Wolfe >> <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx> >> >* wrote: >> >> >> From: Alan Wolfe >> <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx> >> > >> Subject: [project1dev] Re: OT: microsoft, secretly our friend? >> To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 12:04 PM >> >> >> I once had a friend who i'll call "Eric" >> >> Me and him were chillin somewhere at night mindin our own business and >> some cops came and started talkin to us. >> >> Long story short, he was peppersprayed, beaten (it took a cop around his >> middle and one on each arm to take him down), stomped a couple times neo >> nazi style when he was on the ground, and then arrested for resisting >> arrest. >> >> He was in jail for 2 days i think and when they took him to court, they >> dropped the charges before the trial since they didn't actually have >> anything to try him with. >> >> good times :P >> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:01 PM, eric drewes >> <figarus@xxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=figarus@xxxxxxxxx> >> > wrote: >> >>> all joking aside though, im right there with you Cid, but i'd add more >>> than just lawyers to the list of people dragged out of their overpriced >>> stuffy offices :) >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:58 PM, eric drewes >>> <figarus@xxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=figarus@xxxxxxxxx> >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> you dont like our justice system? man, cops have never been anything >>>> but nice and helpful for me, i dont understand where the anti-gov >>>> sentiments >>>> come from ;) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:55 PM, CiD >>>> <screamingdazeez@xxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=screamingdazeez@xxxxxxxxx> >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Smart man. Something interesting is military law is different than >>>>> civilian law under the same country umbrella of power. I do not like our >>>>> justice system and think lawyers should be dragged out of their >>>>> overpriced, >>>>> stuffy offices and stripped down to their skivvies and slapped with wet >>>>> towels until they are severely red bodied and sent home to their mommas >>>>> for >>>>> instructions on how to properly share their milk chocolate with the rest >>>>> of >>>>> the class! >>>>> >>>>> --- On *Wed, 3/31/10, Alan Wolfe >>>>> <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>> >* wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Alan Wolfe >>>>> <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>> > >>>>> Subject: [project1dev] Re: OT: microsoft, secretly our friend? >>>>> To: >>>>> project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 8:26 AM >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> They must have some angle. >>>>> >>>>> Like maybe they have something to hide that they dont want the govt to >>>>> see or something. >>>>> >>>>> I dont trust MSs intentions for 1 second :P >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 8:04 AM, eric drewes >>>>> <figarus@xxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=figarus@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/49179-google-and-microsoft-call-for-greater-limits-on-government-snooping >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > >