[modeleng] Re: Parts prices
- From: Jesse <fernj1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Charles Brumbelow <mrb37211@xxxxxxxxx>, Jimmy Cunningham <sparknwires@xxxxxxx>, Keith Spriggs <kdspriggs@xxxxxxx>, Brad Smith <corlissbs@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 11:01:38 -0500
Jeff, Over here adjustable wrenches (spanners) are called "knuckle
skinners" since that is what happens when they slip, but the German
"MEE" is an excellent name.. No room in my tool box for one of the
things. In all my years as a machinist, I never owned one, but now have
one I keep behind my 12" Atlas lathe. Works wonderfully as a chuck
loosening handle. I just clamp it onto a chuck jaw, lock the spindle and
pull on the alleged wrench to unscrew the chuck or at loosen it.
Jesse in possible thunderstormy Troy, TN
> When working in a factory in southern Germany two years ago, the shop guys
> were calling an adjustable wrench a "May". I asked why and they said it was
> not "May" they were saying, but the initials "MEE". I asked what that meant
> and one guy wrote down "muttern ecke entferner" which I later ran through
> Google translate and found out it means "nut corner remover" in English.
>
> Talk about an accurate acronym!
>
> Cheers Jeff Dayman
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "peter chadwick" <g8on@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 10:08 AM
> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices
>
>
>> It is said that the adjustable spanner was invented by a Swedish
>> blacksmith, which may or may not be correct. What is true is that in
>> French, it is called 'un clef Anglaise' or 'English key'.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ========================================
>> Message Received: Sep 25 2012, 02:41 PM
>> From: kjones9154@xxxxxxx
>> To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Cc:
>> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices
>>
>> Some years ago I worked for a conveyor company and we installed a conveyor
>> in a copper mine at Twin Buttes Tucson. This conveyor had a huge gearbox
>> with which we supplied a set of tools. I remember two Texans being very
>> amused by a large spanner from this tool box with the manufacturers name
>> of :- 'King Dick'!
>> Is it true that the name spanner is derived from the tool that was used to
>> 'span' or load cross bows?
>> And while we are on the subject - why do we call that little piece of
>> metal that puts a female thread in a hole --- a 'tap'? in the parallel
>> world that is not engineering this is what we use to turn the water on!!!
>> or is that a 'faucet or perhaps fawcett' Jesse?
>>
>>
>> Ken Jones in showery Berkshire.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jesse
>> To: modeleng
>> Sent: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 22:12
>> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices
>>
>>
>> On 9/24/2012 3:46 PM, Ken Strauss wrote:
>> Ken, you wins the seegar even though you left out one letter in Mr.
>> Mon_e_cky's name .You must have a copy of the same Audels' Manual that I
>> have.
>> Adjustable open wrenches are all called Crescent Wrenches over here in
>> the American colony probably because the first ones were made by the
>> Crescent Tool company . Never heard one called a "shifter". Spanners
>> usually have a large opening with either a lug on the ends of the jaws
>> or else steel pins, depending on how it is to be used. I have seen a
>> spanner or two in which one leg could pivot so it would fit more than
>> one size packing gland or whatever.
>>> You're probably going to tell some story about "Charles Moncky"...
>>>
>>> I thought that an adjustable open end wrench was commonly called a
>>> "shifter"
>>> across the pond. I believe that a "spanner" is a fixed jaw open end
>>> wrench.
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:modeleng-
>>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jesse
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:09 PM
>>>> To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices
>>>>
>>>> Barry,
>>>> That I can understand as I have a turret (capstan) where my tailstock
>>> normally
>>>> goes, but I do a lot of work that requires the turret which has
>>>> 6 stations so the tailstock sits on the floor. Currently, the box tool,
>>>> a
>>> threading
>>>> die and a couple of drill chucks are mounted on the turret.
>>>> Sometimes there is also a center cut end mill to allow facing of the
>>>> work
>>> and a
>>>> center drill in another chuck.
>>>> Funny how two nations with the same language call items by different
>>> terms. A
>>>> few years ago I had a problem with "linisher" which is belt sander over
>>> here.
>>>> Ah well, we will soon be building weapons to slow down the Taliban and I
>>>> suppose I will have to make some sort of spear thrower or something.
>>>> Several years ago I had one of our loggers ask me where the "chuck" for
>>> the
>>>> drill press was. I pointed out to him that it was in plain sight on the
>>> drill press,
>>>> but he still couldn't see it. It turned out that he called the chuck key
>>>> a
>>> "chuck"
>>>> and it had fallen to the floor where he didn't see it. Loggers is big
>>> tough blokes,
>>>> but sometimes have funny names for tools. Over here every adjustable
>>>> open
>>>> end spanner (wrench) is called a "Crescent wrench", I suppose because
>>>> the
>>> first
>>>> ones were made by Crescent Tool Company. Spanners are usually forked
>>> tools
>>>> (Y
>>>> shaped) with pins that fit into notches or holes on steam packing glands
>>> and the
>>>> like. Little delicate adjustable spanners are used to unscrew the back
>>>> of
>>> wrist
>>>> watches.
>>>>
>>>> This brings to the so called "Monkey Wrench". Now how many of you gents
>>>> know where that name came from?? When I started work as a machinist
>>>> apprentice at the railroad in 1953, I was issued a ball peen hammer, a
>>>> flashlight, a 10" Mill Bastard File, and was supposed to get a "Monkey
>>> Wrench",
>>>> but didn't. I still have the flashlight and it works as well as it did
>>>> 60
>>> years ago
>>>> though the reflector has darkened considerably. I have a couple of
>>>> "Monkey
>>>> Wrenches" just as curiosities.
>>>> Now, who is going to get the cigar for explaining where Monkey Wrenches
>>> got
>>>> their name?? Alan, Tel, Clif, Al Messy????? Only reason I know is
>>>> because
>>> I
>>>> accidentally saw it in my 1921 Audel's Mechanic's Manual.
>>>>> Jesse,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that the terminology in the U.S. is "Turret lathe". They were
>>>>> the original "mass production" lathe.
>>>>>
>>>>> The capstan is a device sat on the cross slide of the lathe which
>>>>> indexes round every time the cross slide is wound to the right. The
>>>>> capstan is pivoted on a vertical axis and contains a number of tools
>>>>> (usually 6) located radially.
>>>>>
>>>>> Almost every bit of film showing factory work during WW2 shows Capstan
>>>>> lathes at work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Barrie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Jesse"
>>>>> To:
>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:56 PM
>>>>> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well well, the roller box is very similar to my homemade box tool,
>>>>>> but of course much nicer. Both accomplish the same thing. No rollers
>>>>>> in my box tool though. I just use brass bushings that fit the stock
>>>>>> material which is mostly 5/16" or 1/4" in dia.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Still nothing on a capstan lathe. Is this a type of lathe that is
>>>>>> installed on a sailing ship capstan????
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jesse the curious one in Troy Tennessee
>>>>>>> It's one of these:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.tangi-flow.com/rollerboxes.php
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>> On 24/09/2012 01:02, AC Messer wrote:
>>>>>>>> I am familiar with a capstan lathe but I too am iterested as to
>>>>>>>> what is a "roller box".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Al Messer
>>>>>>>>
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