[modeleng] Re: Parts prices

  • From: Ken Strauss <ken.strauss@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 17:30:35 -0400

I'm on your side of the pond (north shore of Lake Ontario).

> -----Original Message-----
> From: modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:modeleng-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jesse
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 5:12 PM
> To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices
>
> On 9/24/2012 3:46 PM, Ken Strauss wrote:
> Ken, you wins the seegar even though you left out one letter in Mr.
> Mon_e_cky's name .You must have a copy of the same Audels' Manual that I
> have.
> Adjustable open wrenches are all called Crescent Wrenches over here in the
> American colony probably because the first ones were made by the Crescent
> Tool company .  Never heard one called a "shifter". Spanners usually have
a
> large opening with either a lug on the ends of the jaws or else steel
pins,
> depending on how it is to be used.  I have seen a spanner or two in which
one
> leg could pivot so it would fit more than one size packing gland or
whatever.
> > You're probably going to tell some story about "Charles Moncky"...
> >
> > I thought that an adjustable open end wrench was commonly called a
> "shifter"
> > across the pond. I believe that a "spanner" is a fixed jaw open end
wrench.
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:modeleng-
> >> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jesse
> >> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:09 PM
> >> To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices
> >>
> >> Barry,
> >> That I can understand as I have a turret (capstan) where my tailstock
> > normally
> >> goes, but I do a lot of work that requires the turret which has
> >> 6 stations so the tailstock sits on the floor. Currently, the box
> >> tool, a
> > threading
> >> die and a couple of drill chucks are mounted on the turret.
> >> Sometimes there is also a center cut end mill to allow facing of the
> >> work
> > and a
> >> center drill in another chuck.
> >> Funny how two nations with the same language call items by different
> > terms.  A
> >> few years ago I had a problem with "linisher" which is belt sander
> >> over
> > here.
> >> Ah well, we will soon be building weapons to slow down the Taliban
> >> and I suppose I will have to make some sort of spear thrower or
something.
> >> Several years ago I had one of our loggers ask me where the "chuck"
> >> for
> > the
> >> drill press was.  I pointed out to him that it was in plain sight on
> >> the
> > drill press,
> >> but he still couldn't see it. It turned out that he called the chuck
> >> key a
> > "chuck"
> >> and it had fallen to the floor where he didn't see it.  Loggers is
> >> big
> > tough blokes,
> >> but sometimes have funny names for tools.  Over here every adjustable
> >> open end spanner (wrench) is called a "Crescent wrench", I suppose
> >> because the
> > first
> >> ones were made by Crescent Tool Company.  Spanners are usually forked
> > tools
> >> (Y
> >> shaped) with pins that fit into notches or holes on steam packing
> >> glands
> > and the
> >> like. Little delicate adjustable spanners are used to unscrew the
> >> back of
> > wrist
> >> watches.
> >>
> >> This brings to the so called "Monkey Wrench".  Now how many of you
> >> gents know where that name came from?? When I started work as a
> >> machinist apprentice at the railroad in 1953, I was issued a ball
> >> peen hammer, a flashlight, a 10" Mill Bastard File, and was supposed
> >> to get a "Monkey
> > Wrench",
> >> but didn't.  I still have the flashlight and it works as well as it
> >> did 60
> > years ago
> >> though the reflector has darkened considerably. I have a couple of
> >> "Monkey Wrenches" just as curiosities.
> >> Now, who is going to get the cigar for explaining where Monkey
> >> Wrenches
> > got
> >> their name?? Alan, Tel, Clif, Al Messy????? Only reason I know is
> >> because
> > I
> >> accidentally saw it in my 1921 Audel's Mechanic's Manual.
> >>> Jesse,
> >>>
> >>> I think that the terminology in the U.S. is "Turret lathe". They
> >>> were the original "mass production" lathe.
> >>>
> >>> The capstan is a device sat on the cross slide of the lathe which
> >>> indexes round every time the cross slide is wound to the right. The
> >>> capstan is pivoted on a vertical axis and contains a number of tools
> >>> (usually 6) located radially.
> >>>
> >>> Almost every bit of film showing factory work during WW2 shows
> >>> Capstan lathes at work.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Barrie
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Jesse" <fernj1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:56 PM
> >>> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Well well, the roller box is very similar to my homemade box tool,
> >>>> but of course much nicer. Both accomplish the same thing.  No
> >>>> rollers in my box tool though.  I just use brass bushings that fit
> >>>> the stock material which is mostly  5/16" or 1/4" in dia.
> >>>>
> >>>> Still nothing on a capstan lathe.  Is this a type of lathe that is
> >>>> installed on a sailing ship capstan????
> >>>>
> >>>> Jesse the curious one in Troy Tennessee
> >>>>> It's one of these:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.tangi-flow.com/rollerboxes.php
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Alan
> >>>>> On 24/09/2012 01:02, AC Messer wrote:
> >>>>>> I am familiar with a capstan lathe but I too am iterested as to
> >>>>>> what is a "roller box".
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Al Messer
> >>>>>>
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