[modeleng] Re: Parts prices
- From: Jeff Dayman <jeffdayman@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 10:35:39 -0400
When working in a factory in southern Germany two years ago, the shop guys
were calling an adjustable wrench a "May". I asked why and they said it was
not "May" they were saying, but the initials "MEE". I asked what that meant
and one guy wrote down "muttern ecke entferner" which I later ran through
Google translate and found out it means "nut corner remover" in English.
Talk about an accurate acronym!
Cheers Jeff Dayman
----- Original Message -----
From: "peter chadwick" <g8on@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 10:08 AM
Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices
> It is said that the adjustable spanner was invented by a Swedish
> blacksmith, which may or may not be correct. What is true is that in
> French, it is called 'un clef Anglaise' or 'English key'.
>
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> Message Received: Sep 25 2012, 02:41 PM
> From: kjones9154@xxxxxxx
> To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc:
> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices
>
> Some years ago I worked for a conveyor company and we installed a conveyor
> in a copper mine at Twin Buttes Tucson. This conveyor had a huge gearbox
> with which we supplied a set of tools. I remember two Texans being very
> amused by a large spanner from this tool box with the manufacturers name
> of :- 'King Dick'!
> Is it true that the name spanner is derived from the tool that was used to
> 'span' or load cross bows?
> And while we are on the subject - why do we call that little piece of
> metal that puts a female thread in a hole --- a 'tap'? in the parallel
> world that is not engineering this is what we use to turn the water on!!!
> or is that a 'faucet or perhaps fawcett' Jesse?
>
>
> Ken Jones in showery Berkshire.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jesse
> To: modeleng
> Sent: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 22:12
> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices
>
>
> On 9/24/2012 3:46 PM, Ken Strauss wrote:
> Ken, you wins the seegar even though you left out one letter in Mr.
> Mon_e_cky's name .You must have a copy of the same Audels' Manual that I
> have.
> Adjustable open wrenches are all called Crescent Wrenches over here in
> the American colony probably because the first ones were made by the
> Crescent Tool company . Never heard one called a "shifter". Spanners
> usually have a large opening with either a lug on the ends of the jaws
> or else steel pins, depending on how it is to be used. I have seen a
> spanner or two in which one leg could pivot so it would fit more than
> one size packing gland or whatever.
>> You're probably going to tell some story about "Charles Moncky"...
>>
>> I thought that an adjustable open end wrench was commonly called a
>> "shifter"
>> across the pond. I believe that a "spanner" is a fixed jaw open end
>> wrench.
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:modeleng-
>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jesse
>>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:09 PM
>>> To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices
>>>
>>> Barry,
>>> That I can understand as I have a turret (capstan) where my tailstock
>> normally
>>> goes, but I do a lot of work that requires the turret which has
>>> 6 stations so the tailstock sits on the floor. Currently, the box tool,
>>> a
>> threading
>>> die and a couple of drill chucks are mounted on the turret.
>>> Sometimes there is also a center cut end mill to allow facing of the
>>> work
>> and a
>>> center drill in another chuck.
>>> Funny how two nations with the same language call items by different
>> terms. A
>>> few years ago I had a problem with "linisher" which is belt sander over
>> here.
>>> Ah well, we will soon be building weapons to slow down the Taliban and I
>>> suppose I will have to make some sort of spear thrower or something.
>>> Several years ago I had one of our loggers ask me where the "chuck" for
>> the
>>> drill press was. I pointed out to him that it was in plain sight on the
>> drill press,
>>> but he still couldn't see it. It turned out that he called the chuck key
>>> a
>> "chuck"
>>> and it had fallen to the floor where he didn't see it. Loggers is big
>> tough blokes,
>>> but sometimes have funny names for tools. Over here every adjustable
>>> open
>>> end spanner (wrench) is called a "Crescent wrench", I suppose because
>>> the
>> first
>>> ones were made by Crescent Tool Company. Spanners are usually forked
>> tools
>>> (Y
>>> shaped) with pins that fit into notches or holes on steam packing glands
>> and the
>>> like. Little delicate adjustable spanners are used to unscrew the back
>>> of
>> wrist
>>> watches.
>>>
>>> This brings to the so called "Monkey Wrench". Now how many of you gents
>>> know where that name came from?? When I started work as a machinist
>>> apprentice at the railroad in 1953, I was issued a ball peen hammer, a
>>> flashlight, a 10" Mill Bastard File, and was supposed to get a "Monkey
>> Wrench",
>>> but didn't. I still have the flashlight and it works as well as it did
>>> 60
>> years ago
>>> though the reflector has darkened considerably. I have a couple of
>>> "Monkey
>>> Wrenches" just as curiosities.
>>> Now, who is going to get the cigar for explaining where Monkey Wrenches
>> got
>>> their name?? Alan, Tel, Clif, Al Messy????? Only reason I know is
>>> because
>> I
>>> accidentally saw it in my 1921 Audel's Mechanic's Manual.
>>>> Jesse,
>>>>
>>>> I think that the terminology in the U.S. is "Turret lathe". They were
>>>> the original "mass production" lathe.
>>>>
>>>> The capstan is a device sat on the cross slide of the lathe which
>>>> indexes round every time the cross slide is wound to the right. The
>>>> capstan is pivoted on a vertical axis and contains a number of tools
>>>> (usually 6) located radially.
>>>>
>>>> Almost every bit of film showing factory work during WW2 shows Capstan
>>>> lathes at work.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Barrie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jesse"
>>>> To:
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:56 PM
>>>> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Well well, the roller box is very similar to my homemade box tool,
>>>>> but of course much nicer. Both accomplish the same thing. No rollers
>>>>> in my box tool though. I just use brass bushings that fit the stock
>>>>> material which is mostly 5/16" or 1/4" in dia.
>>>>>
>>>>> Still nothing on a capstan lathe. Is this a type of lathe that is
>>>>> installed on a sailing ship capstan????
>>>>>
>>>>> Jesse the curious one in Troy Tennessee
>>>>>> It's one of these:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.tangi-flow.com/rollerboxes.php
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>> On 24/09/2012 01:02, AC Messer wrote:
>>>>>>> I am familiar with a capstan lathe but I too am iterested as to
>>>>>>> what is a "roller box".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Al Messer
>>>>>>>
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