[modeleng] Re: Parts prices
- From: peter chadwick <g8on@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 16:08:16 +0200
It is said that the adjustable spanner was invented by a Swedish blacksmith,
which may or may not be correct. What is true is that in French, it is called
'un clef Anglaise' or 'English key'.
========================================
Message Received: Sep 25 2012, 02:41 PM
From: kjones9154@xxxxxxx
To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc:
Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices
Some years ago I worked for a conveyor company and we installed a conveyor in a
copper mine at Twin Buttes Tucson. This conveyor had a huge gearbox with which
we supplied a set of tools. I remember two Texans being very amused by a large
spanner from this tool box with the manufacturers name of :- 'King Dick'!
Is it true that the name spanner is derived from the tool that was used to
'span' or load cross bows?
And while we are on the subject - why do we call that little piece of metal
that puts a female thread in a hole --- a 'tap'? in the parallel world that is
not engineering this is what we use to turn the water on!!! or is that a
'faucet or perhaps fawcett' Jesse?
Ken Jones in showery Berkshire.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jesse
To: modeleng
Sent: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 22:12
Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices
On 9/24/2012 3:46 PM, Ken Strauss wrote:
Ken, you wins the seegar even though you left out one letter in Mr.
Mon_e_cky's name .You must have a copy of the same Audels' Manual that I
have.
Adjustable open wrenches are all called Crescent Wrenches over here in
the American colony probably because the first ones were made by the
Crescent Tool company . Never heard one called a "shifter". Spanners
usually have a large opening with either a lug on the ends of the jaws
or else steel pins, depending on how it is to be used. I have seen a
spanner or two in which one leg could pivot so it would fit more than
one size packing gland or whatever.
> You're probably going to tell some story about "Charles Moncky"...
>
> I thought that an adjustable open end wrench was commonly called a "shifter"
> across the pond. I believe that a "spanner" is a fixed jaw open end wrench.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:modeleng-
>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jesse
>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:09 PM
>> To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices
>>
>> Barry,
>> That I can understand as I have a turret (capstan) where my tailstock
> normally
>> goes, but I do a lot of work that requires the turret which has
>> 6 stations so the tailstock sits on the floor. Currently, the box tool, a
> threading
>> die and a couple of drill chucks are mounted on the turret.
>> Sometimes there is also a center cut end mill to allow facing of the work
> and a
>> center drill in another chuck.
>> Funny how two nations with the same language call items by different
> terms. A
>> few years ago I had a problem with "linisher" which is belt sander over
> here.
>> Ah well, we will soon be building weapons to slow down the Taliban and I
>> suppose I will have to make some sort of spear thrower or something.
>> Several years ago I had one of our loggers ask me where the "chuck" for
> the
>> drill press was. I pointed out to him that it was in plain sight on the
> drill press,
>> but he still couldn't see it. It turned out that he called the chuck key a
> "chuck"
>> and it had fallen to the floor where he didn't see it. Loggers is big
> tough blokes,
>> but sometimes have funny names for tools. Over here every adjustable open
>> end spanner (wrench) is called a "Crescent wrench", I suppose because the
> first
>> ones were made by Crescent Tool Company. Spanners are usually forked
> tools
>> (Y
>> shaped) with pins that fit into notches or holes on steam packing glands
> and the
>> like. Little delicate adjustable spanners are used to unscrew the back of
> wrist
>> watches.
>>
>> This brings to the so called "Monkey Wrench". Now how many of you gents
>> know where that name came from?? When I started work as a machinist
>> apprentice at the railroad in 1953, I was issued a ball peen hammer, a
>> flashlight, a 10" Mill Bastard File, and was supposed to get a "Monkey
> Wrench",
>> but didn't. I still have the flashlight and it works as well as it did 60
> years ago
>> though the reflector has darkened considerably. I have a couple of "Monkey
>> Wrenches" just as curiosities.
>> Now, who is going to get the cigar for explaining where Monkey Wrenches
> got
>> their name?? Alan, Tel, Clif, Al Messy????? Only reason I know is because
> I
>> accidentally saw it in my 1921 Audel's Mechanic's Manual.
>>> Jesse,
>>>
>>> I think that the terminology in the U.S. is "Turret lathe". They were
>>> the original "mass production" lathe.
>>>
>>> The capstan is a device sat on the cross slide of the lathe which
>>> indexes round every time the cross slide is wound to the right. The
>>> capstan is pivoted on a vertical axis and contains a number of tools
>>> (usually 6) located radially.
>>>
>>> Almost every bit of film showing factory work during WW2 shows Capstan
>>> lathes at work.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Barrie
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jesse"
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:56 PM
>>> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices
>>>
>>>
>>>> Well well, the roller box is very similar to my homemade box tool,
>>>> but of course much nicer. Both accomplish the same thing. No rollers
>>>> in my box tool though. I just use brass bushings that fit the stock
>>>> material which is mostly 5/16" or 1/4" in dia.
>>>>
>>>> Still nothing on a capstan lathe. Is this a type of lathe that is
>>>> installed on a sailing ship capstan????
>>>>
>>>> Jesse the curious one in Troy Tennessee
>>>>> It's one of these:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.tangi-flow.com/rollerboxes.php
>>>>>
>>>>> Alan
>>>>> On 24/09/2012 01:02, AC Messer wrote:
>>>>>> I am familiar with a capstan lathe but I too am iterested as to
>>>>>> what is a "roller box".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Al Messer
>>>>>>
>>>>> MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST.
>>>>>
>>>>> To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to,
>>>>> modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the
>>>>> subject line.
>>>> MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST.
>>>>
>>>> To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to,
>>>> modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the
>>>> subject line.
>>>>
>>> MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST.
>>>
>>> To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to,
>>> modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the
> subject
>> line.
>>
>> MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST.
>>
>> To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-
>> request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.
>
> MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST.
>
> To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to,
> modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject
line.
MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST.
To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to,
modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.
MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST.
To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to,
modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.
MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST.
To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to,
modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.
Other related posts:
