Perhaps we could discuss my view that >>>>>>>> Because of the war on Iraq, some Muslims are being attracted to extremist versions of militant Islam. <<<<<<<<< as that is, it seems, happening in the UK. EY> If all you mean is that the war in Iraq has caused more > Muslims to join the fight against the West, what's the > problem? good point; the War could not decently have been opposed on those grounds alone (WWII is not a good general example, though). But is it not the case that Bush says he is making the US safer by waging these wars? Also Simon and I are both arguing, in our different ways, against an over-emphasis on Qutb. Judy Evans, Cardiff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Yost" <eyost1132@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 6:37 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Ideology vs Experience > Simon: Do you accept that the war in Iraq has created more > fundamentlists than there were before? > > How are fundamentalists "created"? To call someone a > fundamentalist is to say that the person in question > believes that the interpretation of every word of a sacred > text is a literal truth. > > Usually, or so it seems, the intellectual development of > people goes from a literal understanding to a figurative > understanding, and not the other way, from metaphorical > understanding back to literal understanding. > > So "creating fundamentalists" implies that an event can > cause people to shed complex and nuanced views of religion, > devolving into an obedient and unquestioning acceptance of > literal statements. Seems unlikely. > > If all you mean is that the war in Iraq has caused more > Muslims to join the fight against the West, what's the > problem? Intensification of ground war in World War 2 caused > more Nazis to join the fight against the Allies. Trying to > dispose of a hornet's nest always makes the hornets swarm. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html