[lit-ideas] Re: Ideology vs Experience

  • From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:49:35 -0700

No, no, I couldn't have said it's exclusively ideology.  You misunderstood.
It could not exist without this particular ideology, but like any ideology
it is one which one lives with, which answers the daily needs, which
explains what is going on about one.  The nature of Sayyid Qutb's writings
is that he wrote about these things; so the believer will say much as a
Marxist would say, see, this is what he said and he was right.  You can see
the evidence.  You can see what we need to do.  You can see how we need to
think about these things.  Isn't that what you do, Simon?





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Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Ideology vs Experience


Seems you're in revisionist mode then Lawrence. Shame really. 


The issue, Lawrence is the manner in which moderates become extremist, not
with how many moderates there might be. You have consistently said that it's
exclusively down to ideology, which of course denies the possibility that
the Iraq war (to take one example) might be pushing moderates towards the


Now, however, you seem to be suggesting otherwise. Forgetting Qutb for the
moment, deal with the simple question: Do moderate mulsims react to their
perceptions and experiences of western action in the world?



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