[lit-ideas] Re: A Movie [longish]

  • From: "Judith Evans" <judithevans1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 17:51:38 +0100

> The thing is... we KNOW that our idiots are evil, I don't think
they [the
> islamists] do.

not all of us/you know our/your idiots are malign; and only if
you define
"Islamist" as "one who does not know his/her "idiots" are "evil"
can
you say islamists don't.

Judy Evans, Cardiff
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Stone" <pas@xxxxxxxx>
To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 5:44 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: A Movie [longish]


>
> >Most of the world thinks Bush is evil.  Does that give some
other country
> >a right to 'liberate' us?  Many Americans think Bush is evil.
But even
> >they wouldn't welcome any outside 'liberators'?
>
> They'd CERTAINLY welcome INSIDE liberators, unfortunately,
there doesn't
> seem to be a very good replacement in line.
>
> >I didn't see the movie you're discussing here, but couldn't it
just have
> >been put together precisely to scare people?
>
> Of course. Like I said in the very first post, it's "obviously
anti-islamist".
>
> >   Imagine what a fine film the other side could put together
cutting and
> > pasting scenes of Bush and Cheney and Ashcroft and Rumsfeld
and Gingrich
> > and Robertson and even crazier Christian fundies spewing
their hatred of
> > everything unAmerican to huge audiences over many years.
>
> That happens all the time... I've seen many of these films -- 
made by
> Americans. What was that one... Fahrenheit somethingeruther.
>
> >  To their uneducated population, they could sell this as
representative
> > of America.
>
> You don't need uneducated population to see that Bush IS a
miserable,
> tragically misguided failure and I guess, by some standards,
'evil',
> "whatever that means" and when he stands there after giving a
speech that
> someone else has deliberately crafted to sway the 'people' to
believe what
> he is trowelling out'' and says "god bless america" and smirks,
he IS just
> as brain-washed and frightening as an ayatollah or an imam
chanting "Allahu
> Akbar" to throngs of his admirers. That [the US] government is
a fucking
> disaster, and it's ruled, just as in the Middle East, by
religious
> ideologues. It IS scary.
>
> >And if they were militarily powerful enough to invade the
U.S., they could
> >use it to rally their population behind their war.
>
> The thing is... we KNOW that our idiots are evil, I don't think
they [the
> islamists] do.
>
> Paul
>
>
> ##########
> Paul Stone
> pas@xxxxxxxx
> Kingsville, ON, Canada
>
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