[lit-ideas] Re: A Movie [longish]
- From: Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:01:18 -0700 (PDT)
Paul,
I am baffled. Are you actually advocating killing 300
million people, or am I misreading you ? How are these
people to be identified, and how is this to be done ?
While you are at it, why stop at 300 million and not
do the rest ?
O.K.
--- Paul Stone <pas@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Ever since 9/11, I've managed to read many books and
> watch dozens of
> specials, tvmovies, documentaries and movies about
> islamism, islam, the
> M.E. conflict, terrorism and the basic history of
> world politics in the
> past 150 years. Several people on this list have
> displayed similar interest
> and much more erudition on-list and that has also
> helped me to try and come
> to terms with what is going on. I'm always eager to
> get a new look at things.
>
> Last night, probably just about the time that the
> Brits were beginning to
> prepare to foil their own airplane nightmare, in a
> mildly synchronous
> event, I watched a movie called "Obsession: Radical
> Islam's War Against the
> West". This was a documentary -- obviously slanted
> towards the
> 'anti-islamism' side of things, but not without
> cause. The speeches of
> vitriole that imam upon imam performed {assuming of
> course that the
> subtitles were accurate} were downright disgusting.
> The things that dozens
> of 'shakers' said were almost EXACTLY the same --
> all NON-islamic people
> were not even people. They were animals, infidels
> and should be killed so
> that Islam can take over the Earth. JUST for being
> NON-islamic. I have to
> stress that. Not for anything else. They never
> admitted envy, they never
> judged our actions, they merely wanted us killed for
> impeding them doing
> the work for allah and taking over the world.
>
> At the same time they were letting nutcases like
> Nasrallah and Abu Hamza al
> Masri prove their own incredible worth of ridicule,
> they had sympathetic
> and 'normal' muslims as narrators who were equally
> disturbed [as I was] by
> the overall anti-islamic sentiment because of the
> sizeable groups of
> fanatics that have, in the words of one man,
> 'hijacked the religion' The
> narrators were Palestinians and other Middle
> Easterners -- including a few
> Jews -- such as Palestinian reporter Khaled Abu
> Toameh, the daughter of a
> "martyr", Nonie Darwish and as they called him
> {sorry, I had to laugh}
> "former PLO terrorist" Walid Shoebat, by all
> appearances, now, a quite
> resonable man. The other usual suspects were
> Christian Lebanese, Brigitte
> Gabriel, Middle East Forum's Daniel Pipes, UWO
> PolySci prof, Salim Mansur,
> professor of religious studies at San Diego State,
> Khaleel Muhameed and a
> few others whom I don't remember at this time.
>
> As we watched, my g/f and I shook our head as we saw
> droves of people
> chanting "Death to America" and we watched Iranian
> "music videos" which had
> cartoonish qualities that basically gave the same
> message. Their MTV must
> be REALLY boring. Then they showed this really
> disturbing "tv show" that
> showed "dirty Jews" preparing for Passover by
> kidnapping and bleeding a
> Christian child for the vital ingredient for Matzos.
> At the end of the
> episode, one offered another a sampling and said
> something like "tasty eh?"
> and almost smirked. It was abominable. To think that
> this stuff is actually
> played on their airwaves explained a lot of things.
>
> The inculcation was the most disturbing. Seeing
> tens of thousands
> chanting "death to america, death to the Uk" and
> making songs out of it
> made me shake my head in disbelief. Seeing an 8 year
> old girl saying that
> she would "personally like to kill george bush" was
> sickening. This
> reminded me of when I saw a KKK family on Jerry
> Springer 15 years ago and
> their little 'offspring' were saying the same thing
> daddy was teachin' 'em
> "niggers are nothing" and sickening things like
> that.
>
> It's perhaps mildly ironic that just before we put
> this movie on, I had
> watched a couple of the TED videos that {I think}
> Stan suggested to us the
> other day. The last one I watched was a presentation
> by Dr. Larry
> Brilliant, an epidemiologist who helped eradicate
> Small Pox, and his motto
> that he repeated was "early detection, early
> response".
>
> The dangerous Islamicism that is sweeping the globe
> now is much like a
> virus and must, like Small Pox be eradicated. I
> would never reach out and
> kill an insect for the sake of it. Spiders don't
> bother me just because
> they are spiders. But every spring, I have the local
> spider control come in
> and make sure I don't get thousands because I've had
> thousands before and
> it's very unpleasant and unbearable in the backyard
> with that many pests.
>
> Am I saying a few radical Islamicists are pests? You
> bet I am. But there
> numbers are reaching epidemic proportions and are
> bordering on becoming a
> deadly disease outbreak, raising equally dangerous
> clones of themselves to
> spread the hatred and envelope the globe in the
> grips of their insanity --
> yes, insanity. "Early detection, early response".
> It's too bad, we can't
> the pre-emptive strikes right. In a way, that's what
> Bush tried with Iraq,
> but he chose the wrong infection.
>
> After watching it, but not just because of it, I am
> once again reassured
> that my initial reaction [since learning about OBL
> and his ilk] is not one
> of a "western bigot" or and 'anti-islamist", I am
> simply saying that our
> only response is to kill every last one of them
> BECAUSE they want to kill
> us and BEFORE they kill us. We ARE the host and the
> parasites must be
> quelled. If only our political correctness could
> abate long enough for us
> to actually do it. It's very unfortunate that the
> other 900 million muslims
> who are reputedly "not like those 300 million
> fanatics" don't try to
> reclaim their good name by doing something 'inhouse'
> to sort this out. My
> greatest fear is that, if left to
> "therestoftheworld", the job will get
> messy and lots of [actually] innocent Muslims will
> die. Collateral damage?
> Yes, but not without necessity.
>
> hopped up on IV Anti-Biotics for a bug bite
> {seriously}
> inflamed,
> Paul
>
> ##########
> Paul Stone
> pas@xxxxxxxx
> Kingsville, ON, Canada
>
>
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