You don't understand simple physics. It is easy to determine if one is stationary with respect to another body, such as the sun. My brother is doing this every night. Alan If one is stationary with respect to another body, this is not being "immobile with respect to space." Lets for the moment assume i am standing stationary in a train travelling 50 miles per hour. I am stationary with respect to the train, but I am not immobile. Are you purposely misconstruing what I thought I wrote quite clearly? What does your physics, of which I seem to be ignorant, take "Immobile with respect to space" mean? Please tell me if you were in a boat out of sight of all other objects, and you perceived the water flowing past the boat, just how easy would it be for you to establish if it was the boat moving or the current in the water. Or in a plane doing 300mph in a headwind of 300mph? hmmm. All in good fun, I have always enjoyed teaching. Philip. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Griffin" <ajg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 9:08 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Challenge On 01 Aug, Philip <joyphil@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Even if an alien landed on earth with a time-lapse video of the > earth orbiting the sun, taken from a light-year away, you would find some > reason to discount it! Alan. > Dear Alan, I am sure you would want to withdraw that statement. > Surely you would know that the Alien would have know way of establishing > when or if he was immobile with respect to space when he took the video. > Only God could do that. You don't understand simple physics. It is easy to determine if one is stationary with respect to another body, such as the sun. My brother is doing this every night. Alan