[bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings

  • From: tina birenbaum <tinabir@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 01:39:38 -0500

I may
thanks.  Do you know how I might do that the thing is about 25 pounds i don't 
know if a new scanner might just be better? It isn't something I can very 
easily move.
> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Shelley L.  Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 23:22:43 -0500
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings

>Hi Tina,

>Actually from the time you start using a scanner the bulb runs out.

>So yep, it needs replacing, if you want to have good scans again from it.

>As light is a key element of a scanner's operation.

>If you are curious about this and other scanning questions.

>see

>OCR with a Smile

>Is in the collection.

>Shelley L.  Rhodes B.S.  Ed, CTVI
>and Judson, guiding golden
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "tina birenbaum" <tinabir@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 7:39 PM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings


>so Hi and happy new year.  In reading about people's scanners, it made me
>wonder how
>long their bulbs last.  I have a 10 year old reading edge which used to do
>great on books and even mail but I seem to be lucky if it'll rbd my mail
>much anymore so  s"ts ,i use
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>mi<t ,i j h a bad bulb & h{ d y replace ~? 2c x gives me jib}i%1  or is my
>be/ bet probably j 6get a new scann}4

>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Silvara" <silvara@xxxxxxx
>>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:15:13 -0500
>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings

>>Any validator can replace a book.  When I validate replacement books I am
>>very careful with checking whether it is a truly improved copy.  I don't
>>take the submitter's word that it is.  I check for myself.  I had a couple
>>of instants that books were submitted as improved copies, but when I
>>checked with K1000, they were significantly worse copies.  So I rejected
>>them.  Others have been somewhat similar but I cleaned them up some, so
>>they were better.  And still others were the same and so I rejected them.

>>Tiffany, as Julie said you can always resubmit your books or email
>>bookshare about it.  Because we should be improving the collection., not
>>down grading it.
>>Grace
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: Gary Petraccaro
>>  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>  Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 1:48 PM
>>  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings


>>  Who's responsible for judging the quality of a replacement.  I've sent a
>> few replacements, but they were usually for books that I was asked to do
>> or of books I'd originally done and could now improve.

>>    ----- Original Message -----
>>    From: Tiffany H.  Jessen
>>    To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>    Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:13 AM
>>    Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings


>>    Yes, I get the letter of acceptance, then some time later, (sometimes
>> even
>>    months later), I get a notice that my copy has been replaced by a
>> superior
>>    quality.  And yes, I use Kurzweil to rank the quality.  It's not always
>> a big
>>    difference, but in all of the cases so far they have been  decreases in
>>    quality.  After looking over the books more closely I suppose they
>> could
>>    still be considered excellent shape, but they're more borderline where
>> as
>>    mine were nearly perfect.  Oh well...

>>    ----- Original Message -----
>>    From: "Silvara" <silvara@xxxxxxx
>>    To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>    Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 10:15 PM
>>    Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings


>>> Tiffany:

>>> Do you actually receive an email telling you that your book has been
>>> replaced?
>>> That can be very frustrating especially if you feel that the book has
>>> been
>>> down graded, not improved.

>>> K1000 is an excellent tool for comparing book quality.  When you look at
>>> the list of mispelling you get to see what type of errors it has.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tiffany H.  Jessen" <tjessen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 10:18 AM
>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings


>>>> Oh no, I don't worry about a validater ranking my book as good if I
>>>> think
>>>> it is excellent.  My concern is when I have a book approved in
>>>> excellent,
>>>> and then X amount of time later someone else scans that same book and
>>>> has
>>>> it approved as an excellent quality, when in fact it is lower than what
>>>> I
>>>> did.  I wouldn't mind my book being replaced if it were in fact a
>>>> superior
>>>> quality, the objection is when it goes the other way around.

>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Mike Pietruk" <pietruk@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 6:58 AM
>>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings


>>>>> Tiff and Shelley

>>>>> Perhaps it is age, I'm in my mid 50s, but I don't leg my ego
>>>>> into the process worry8ing whether someone labels my excellent scan as
>>>>> good, et al.  At first, I thought it meant something; but as a
>>>>> validator
>>>>> myself, I realize that it's generally an arbitrary decision made by
>>>>> another human being, and nothing more.
>>>>> So if validator takes my excellent submission and believes it only to
>>>>> be
>>>>> good, what does it matter in the grand schemes of things?

>>>>> As for Lissi's questions, Julie pretty much conveys my feelings.
>>>>> And if a book sits too long on Step 1, as Cindy notes, I always have
>>>>> the
>>>>> option of self-validating which I did on a couple of Christmas books so
>>>>> that they would make it into the collection for the Christmas reading
>>>>> season.

>>>>> As a validator myself, I get to know the work styles of submitters and
>>>>> tend to validate those who do the work upfront so to speak.
>>>>> So I quickly know what will need to be done, if anything, based on my
>>>>> experience with their work as well as comments they supply.
>>>>> I attempt for quick turn arounds and attempt to avoid knitpicking as,
>>>>> with
>>>>> over 600 books on Step 1, time is best spent on titles that frankly
>>>>> don't
>>>>> need much handholding.
>>>>> I would only spend that time on Step 1 books that I believed were
>>>>> special
>>>>> to the collection amd might not be replacible.
>>>>> Spending hours upon hours validating something, in most instances,
>>>>> makes
>>>>> little sense as rescanning it would be faster.
>>>>> Keep in mind that 5 times the credits are given for submissions vs
>>>>> validations which indicates where the effort ought to be placed in a
>>>>> priority scheme.

>>>>> Just some rambling thoughts which I doubt hold much significance.  To
>>>>> sum
>>>>> up, a topnotch submission requires little from the validator beyond
>>>>> spot
>>>>> checking and verification.  And once one learns the work habits and
>>>>> tendecies of those they validate, the process becomes even more
>>>>> streamlined.


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