[bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings

  • From: "Tina Birnenbaum" <tinabir@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 11:45:16 -0700

Okay I'l probably just do that then since  I thought that might be the case.
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From: <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 7:27 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings


> It would be cheaper to get a new scanner.
>
> Shelley L. Rhodes B.S. Ed, CTVI
> and Judson, guiding golden
> juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
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>  Puppies are the joy at one end.
>  Old dogs are the treasure at the other.
> Carolyn Alexander
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tina birenbaum" <tinabir@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 1:39 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings
>
>
> I may
> thanks.  Do you know how I might do that the thing is about 25 pounds i
> don't know if a new scanner might just be better? It isn't something I can
> very easily move.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Shelley L.  Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 23:22:43 -0500
> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings
>
> >Hi Tina,
>
> >Actually from the time you start using a scanner the bulb runs out.
>
> >So yep, it needs replacing, if you want to have good scans again from it.
>
> >As light is a key element of a scanner's operation.
>
> >If you are curious about this and other scanning questions.
>
> >see
>
> >OCR with a Smile
>
> >Is in the collection.
>
> >Shelley L.  Rhodes B.S.  Ed, CTVI
> >and Judson, guiding golden
> >juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
> >Graduate Alumni Association Board
> >www.guidedogs.com
>
> >Dog ownership is like a rainbow.
> > Puppies are the joy at one end.
> > Old dogs are the treasure at the other.
> >Carolyn Alexander
>
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "tina birenbaum" <tinabir@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 7:39 PM
> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings
>
>
> >so Hi and happy new year.  In reading about people's scanners, it made me
> >wonder how
> >long their bulbs last.  I have a 10 year old reading edge which used to
do
> >great on books and even mail but I seem to be lucky if it'll rbd my mail
> >much anymore so  s"ts ,i use
> >x  & "s"ts ,i j h a fr r1d me ! important /uff ,i don't worry ab ! re/ b1
> >mi<t ,i j h a bad bulb & h{ d y replace ~? 2c x gives me jib}i%1  or is
my
> >be/ bet probably j 6get a new scann}4
>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Silvara" <silvara@xxxxxxx
> >>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:15:13 -0500
> >>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings
>
> >>Any validator can replace a book.  When I validate replacement books I
am
> >>very careful with checking whether it is a truly improved copy.  I don't
> >>take the submitter's word that it is.  I check for myself.  I had a
couple
> >>of instants that books were submitted as improved copies, but when I
> >>checked with K1000, they were significantly worse copies.  So I rejected
> >>them.  Others have been somewhat similar but I cleaned them up some, so
> >>they were better.  And still others were the same and so I rejected
them.
>
> >>Tiffany, as Julie said you can always resubmit your books or email
> >>bookshare about it.  Because we should be improving the collection., not
> >>down grading it.
> >>Grace
> >>  ----- Original Message -----
> >>  From: Gary Petraccaro
> >>  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>  Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 1:48 PM
> >>  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings
>
>
> >>  Who's responsible for judging the quality of a replacement.  I've sent
a
> >> few replacements, but they were usually for books that I was asked to
do
> >> or of books I'd originally done and could now improve.
>
> >>    ----- Original Message -----
> >>    From: Tiffany H.  Jessen
> >>    To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>    Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:13 AM
> >>    Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings
>
>
> >>    Yes, I get the letter of acceptance, then some time later,
(sometimes
> >> even
> >>    months later), I get a notice that my copy has been replaced by a
> >> superior
> >>    quality.  And yes, I use Kurzweil to rank the quality.  It's not
> >> always
> >> a big
> >>    difference, but in all of the cases so far they have been  decreases
> >> in
> >>    quality.  After looking over the books more closely I suppose they
> >> could
> >>    still be considered excellent shape, but they're more borderline
where
> >> as
> >>    mine were nearly perfect.  Oh well...
>
> >>    ----- Original Message -----
> >>    From: "Silvara" <silvara@xxxxxxx
> >>    To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>    Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 10:15 PM
> >>    Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings
>
>
> >>> Tiffany:
>
> >>> Do you actually receive an email telling you that your book has been
> >>> replaced?
> >>> That can be very frustrating especially if you feel that the book has
> >>> been
> >>> down graded, not improved.
>
> >>> K1000 is an excellent tool for comparing book quality.  When you look
at
> >>> the list of mispelling you get to see what type of errors it has.
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Tiffany H.  Jessen" <tjessen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 10:18 AM
> >>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings
>
>
> >>>> Oh no, I don't worry about a validater ranking my book as good if I
> >>>> think
> >>>> it is excellent.  My concern is when I have a book approved in
> >>>> excellent,
> >>>> and then X amount of time later someone else scans that same book and
> >>>> has
> >>>> it approved as an excellent quality, when in fact it is lower than wh
at
> >>>> I
> >>>> did.  I wouldn't mind my book being replaced if it were in fact a
> >>>> superior
> >>>> quality, the objection is when it goes the other way around.
>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Mike Pietruk" <pietruk@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 6:58 AM
> >>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings
>
>
> >>>>> Tiff and Shelley
>
> >>>>> Perhaps it is age, I'm in my mid 50s, but I don't leg my ego
> >>>>> into the process worry8ing whether someone labels my excellent scan
as
> >>>>> good, et al.  At first, I thought it meant something; but as a
> >>>>> validator
> >>>>> myself, I realize that it's generally an arbitrary decision made by
> >>>>> another human being, and nothing more.
> >>>>> So if validator takes my excellent submission and believes it only
to
> >>>>> be
> >>>>> good, what does it matter in the grand schemes of things?
>
> >>>>> As for Lissi's questions, Julie pretty much conveys my feelings.
> >>>>> And if a book sits too long on Step 1, as Cindy notes, I always have
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> option of self-validating which I did on a couple of Christmas books
> >>>>> so
> >>>>> that they would make it into the collection for the Christmas
reading
> >>>>> season.
>
> >>>>> As a validator myself, I get to know the work styles of submitters
and
> >>>>> tend to validate those who do the work upfront so to speak.
> >>>>> So I quickly know what will need to be done, if anything, based on
my
> >>>>> experience with their work as well as comments they supply.
> >>>>> I attempt for quick turn arounds and attempt to avoid knitpicking
as,
> >>>>> with
> >>>>> over 600 books on Step 1, time is best spent on titles that frankly
> >>>>> don't
> >>>>> need much handholding.
> >>>>> I would only spend that time on Step 1 books that I believed were
> >>>>> special
> >>>>> to the collection amd might not be replacible.
> >>>>> Spending hours upon hours validating something, in most instances,
> >>>>> makes
> >>>>> little sense as rescanning it would be faster.
> >>>>> Keep in mind that 5 times the credits are given for submissions vs
> >>>>> validations which indicates where the effort ought to be placed in a
> >>>>> priority scheme.
>
> >>>>> Just some rambling thoughts which I doubt hold much significance.
To
> >>>>> sum
> >>>>> up, a topnotch submission requires little from the validator beyond
> >>>>> spot
> >>>>> checking and verification.  And once one learns the work habits and
> >>>>> tendecies of those they validate, the process becomes even more
> >>>>> streamlined.
>
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