Okay I'l probably just do that then since I thought that might be the case. ----- Original Message ----- From: <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 7:27 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings > It would be cheaper to get a new scanner. > > Shelley L. Rhodes B.S. Ed, CTVI > and Judson, guiding golden > juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. > Graduate Alumni Association Board > www.guidedogs.com > > Dog ownership is like a rainbow. > Puppies are the joy at one end. > Old dogs are the treasure at the other. > Carolyn Alexander > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "tina birenbaum" <tinabir@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 1:39 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings > > > I may > thanks. Do you know how I might do that the thing is about 25 pounds i > don't know if a new scanner might just be better? It isn't something I can > very easily move. > > ----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx > >To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 23:22:43 -0500 > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings > > >Hi Tina, > > >Actually from the time you start using a scanner the bulb runs out. > > >So yep, it needs replacing, if you want to have good scans again from it. > > >As light is a key element of a scanner's operation. > > >If you are curious about this and other scanning questions. > > >see > > >OCR with a Smile > > >Is in the collection. > > >Shelley L. Rhodes B.S. Ed, CTVI > >and Judson, guiding golden > >juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx > >Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. > >Graduate Alumni Association Board > >www.guidedogs.com > > >Dog ownership is like a rainbow. > > Puppies are the joy at one end. > > Old dogs are the treasure at the other. > >Carolyn Alexander > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "tina birenbaum" <tinabir@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 7:39 PM > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings > > > >so Hi and happy new year. In reading about people's scanners, it made me > >wonder how > >long their bulbs last. I have a 10 year old reading edge which used to do > >great on books and even mail but I seem to be lucky if it'll rbd my mail > >much anymore so s"ts ,i use > >x & "s"ts ,i j h a fr r1d me ! important /uff ,i don't worry ab ! re/ b1 > >mi<t ,i j h a bad bulb & h{ d y replace ~? 2c x gives me jib}i%1 or is my > >be/ bet probably j 6get a new scann}4 > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Silvara" <silvara@xxxxxxx > >>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:15:13 -0500 > >>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings > > >>Any validator can replace a book. When I validate replacement books I am > >>very careful with checking whether it is a truly improved copy. I don't > >>take the submitter's word that it is. I check for myself. I had a couple > >>of instants that books were submitted as improved copies, but when I > >>checked with K1000, they were significantly worse copies. So I rejected > >>them. Others have been somewhat similar but I cleaned them up some, so > >>they were better. And still others were the same and so I rejected them. > > >>Tiffany, as Julie said you can always resubmit your books or email > >>bookshare about it. Because we should be improving the collection., not > >>down grading it. > >>Grace > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Gary Petraccaro > >> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 1:48 PM > >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings > > > >> Who's responsible for judging the quality of a replacement. I've sent a > >> few replacements, but they were usually for books that I was asked to do > >> or of books I'd originally done and could now improve. > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Tiffany H. Jessen > >> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:13 AM > >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings > > > >> Yes, I get the letter of acceptance, then some time later, (sometimes > >> even > >> months later), I get a notice that my copy has been replaced by a > >> superior > >> quality. And yes, I use Kurzweil to rank the quality. It's not > >> always > >> a big > >> difference, but in all of the cases so far they have been decreases > >> in > >> quality. After looking over the books more closely I suppose they > >> could > >> still be considered excellent shape, but they're more borderline where > >> as > >> mine were nearly perfect. Oh well... > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Silvara" <silvara@xxxxxxx > >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 10:15 PM > >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings > > > >>> Tiffany: > > >>> Do you actually receive an email telling you that your book has been > >>> replaced? > >>> That can be very frustrating especially if you feel that the book has > >>> been > >>> down graded, not improved. > > >>> K1000 is an excellent tool for comparing book quality. When you look at > >>> the list of mispelling you get to see what type of errors it has. > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Tiffany H. Jessen" <tjessen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 10:18 AM > >>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings > > > >>>> Oh no, I don't worry about a validater ranking my book as good if I > >>>> think > >>>> it is excellent. My concern is when I have a book approved in > >>>> excellent, > >>>> and then X amount of time later someone else scans that same book and > >>>> has > >>>> it approved as an excellent quality, when in fact it is lower than wh at > >>>> I > >>>> did. I wouldn't mind my book being replaced if it were in fact a > >>>> superior > >>>> quality, the objection is when it goes the other way around. > > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: "Mike Pietruk" <pietruk@xxxxxxxxx > >>>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 6:58 AM > >>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings > > > >>>>> Tiff and Shelley > > >>>>> Perhaps it is age, I'm in my mid 50s, but I don't leg my ego > >>>>> into the process worry8ing whether someone labels my excellent scan as > >>>>> good, et al. At first, I thought it meant something; but as a > >>>>> validator > >>>>> myself, I realize that it's generally an arbitrary decision made by > >>>>> another human being, and nothing more. > >>>>> So if validator takes my excellent submission and believes it only to > >>>>> be > >>>>> good, what does it matter in the grand schemes of things? > > >>>>> As for Lissi's questions, Julie pretty much conveys my feelings. > >>>>> And if a book sits too long on Step 1, as Cindy notes, I always have > >>>>> the > >>>>> option of self-validating which I did on a couple of Christmas books > >>>>> so > >>>>> that they would make it into the collection for the Christmas reading > >>>>> season. > > >>>>> As a validator myself, I get to know the work styles of submitters and > >>>>> tend to validate those who do the work upfront so to speak. > >>>>> So I quickly know what will need to be done, if anything, based on my > >>>>> experience with their work as well as comments they supply. > >>>>> I attempt for quick turn arounds and attempt to avoid knitpicking as, > >>>>> with > >>>>> over 600 books on Step 1, time is best spent on titles that frankly > >>>>> don't > >>>>> need much handholding. > >>>>> I would only spend that time on Step 1 books that I believed were > >>>>> special > >>>>> to the collection amd might not be replacible. > >>>>> Spending hours upon hours validating something, in most instances, > >>>>> makes > >>>>> little sense as rescanning it would be faster. > >>>>> Keep in mind that 5 times the credits are given for submissions vs > >>>>> validations which indicates where the effort ought to be placed in a > >>>>> priority scheme. > > >>>>> Just some rambling thoughts which I doubt hold much significance. To > >>>>> sum > >>>>> up, a topnotch submission requires little from the validator beyond > >>>>> spot > >>>>> checking and verification. And once one learns the work habits and > >>>>> tendecies of those they validate, the process becomes even more > >>>>> streamlined. > > > >>>>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > >>>>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a > >>>>> list > >>>>> of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject > >>>>> line. > > > >>>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > >>>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. 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