atw: Re: To press while... or hold?
- From: "Matilda Reich" <matildar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:50:46 +1100
Sheetal,
You have the last word as far as I am concerned. It's quite okay to take
someone the wrong (or right) way and then clarify the mis-perceptions. I
too have a radar about 'it's not what you say but the way you say it'. Your
points are well taken.
Matilda
----- Original Message -----
From: <sheetal_laviena@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 12:27 PM
Subject: atw: Re: To press while... or hold?
>
> Hi Bja,
>
> Thanks very much for that very analytical email...
>
> We must remember that via email we cannot convey body language which can
> (along with comments like these) be understood face to face...
>
> We're all here for one reason...to learn off each other and share
> ideas....I was making myself very clear that let's do just that and stick
> only to the subject....
>
> Words like Fail and Wrong and starting emails with NO are just poor email
> etiquette....
>
> There is a very old indian saying/parable "There are always two ways for
> asking a person who his father is...., one - "who is your father"? and two
> - <something that I will leave to your imagination"
>
> ....both these questions mean the same thing....but one is rude and one is
> being polite....
>
> P.S. Sheetal is a "she".
>
>
> Regards and thanks,
> Sheetal Laviena.
>
>
>
> "bja"
> <bashley@xxxxxxxxxxx> To:
<austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent by: cc:
> austechwriter-bounce@fre Subject: atw: Re:
To press while... or hold?
> elists.org
>
>
> 18/02/2004 10:40 AM
> Please respond to
> austechwriter
>
>
>
>
>
> What's this becoming... a Brian bashing session?
>
> I don't know Brian and I don't want to be an apologist for him BUT.....
> fair
> suck of the sauce bottle folks.
>
> Brian's comments were aimed at the statements being made by Sheetal and
> while truncated, weren't rude, offensive or personal in my eyes - maybe
> blunt or abrupt would be a better choice of words. Anyway, his comments
> were
> phrased as if he were bluntly speaking to another person face to face and
> this is often done that way on this list.
>
> Sheetal misunderstood the message and felt that Brian was standing in
> judgement when he said "Fail". This was incorrect as Brian was simply
> saying
> the procedure mentioned would fail and I concur with that judgement given
> that many people would assume 'simultaneously' meant to press the keys at
> the exact same time and this is virtually impossible given the nanosecond
> world we live in. Brian also said "Wrong" to the statements made and while
> this could have been said better, it was a correct statement because the
> comments being made by Sheetal were incorrect or at least subject to
> misunderstanding.
>
> Sheetal had his say after that and the matter should have gone away.
>
> Now we get a rudely unsigned, anonymous email from BEKGEACH@xxxxxxx saying
> "Brian You are just rude" (I found this hypocritically amusing). Brian's
> reply was defensive (although also rudely unsigned) and now Geoff is
> bagging
> him.
>
> I didn't comment before but this is getting out of hand. I honestly cannot
> see what Brian has said that is incorrect or what he has written that is
> rude in any way.
>
> Am I missing something? Have I become an insensitive person (rhetorical
> questions require no answer :))?
>
> I'm sure Brian's not as bad as you paint him and personal attacks from
> uninvolved spectators usually only reflect on the spectator.
>
> My 0.02 as usual.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bruce Ashley
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
> > geoff@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Wednesday, 18 February 2004 9:48 AM
> > To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: atw: Re: To press while... or hold?
> >
> >
> > Brian,
> >
> > You give us two options to choose from:
> >
> > 1 - You're deliberately obnoxious
> > 2 - You don't know any better
> >
> > We all make mistakes. We all accept being corrected. Nobody
> > likes being
> > called a failure, especially in such a manner. Do you really
> > believe your
> > manner promotes goodwill and understanding?
> >
> > Geoff
> >
> >
> > Quoting Brian Clarke <brianclarke01@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > > When someone maintains a lack of understanding of
> > sequentiality being
> > > different from
> > > simultaneity, a short sharp message often helps. The
> > keyboard command
> > > system,
> > > electronically, requires that the Command sequence be
> > initiated before the
> > > identifier.
> > > Perhaps you have come in on the tail end of this string and
> > missed that
> > > point.
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: BEKGEACH@xxxxxxx
> > > Brian
> > > You are just Rude!
> > >
> >
> > Quoting Brian Clarke <brianclarke01@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > >Sheetal,
> > >Wrong.
> > >One key must be pressed and held while the other is selected.
> > >Fail.
> > >Brian.
> >
> >
> >
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