"Pressing the Shift key while clicking the button updates all parameters." That's 11 words, and on the width my dialog box is set to, the word 'parameters' wraps to the next line. "Press the Shift key and click the button to update all parameters." That's 12 words, but 'parameters' does not wrap in this sentence. So I suppose it depends on how you define 'longer'! If physical length is an issue, the rewrite is fine. If physical length is not an issue, and the following is OK in the context of the surrounding text, you could also try: "If you want to update all parameters, press the Shift key and click the button." Or maybe the shorter version: "To update all parameters, press the Shift key and click the button." Naomi says: I'd take that to mean 'press SHIFT, then click'. If that was what the sentence meant, then that would be how you would write it. But that's not what the sentence means, so it's OK as is, by me anyway :-) Regards, Sonja -----Original Message----- From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nigel Dawes Sent: Monday, 16 February 2004 9:32 AM To: 'austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: atw: Re: To press while... or hold? Valid suggestion, Sonja - thanks. Doing so, however, makes the sentence longer. "Press the Shift key and click the button to update all parameters". Your thoughts? Rgds Nigel -----Original Message----- From: Sonja McShane [mailto:smcshane@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, 16 February 2004 9:14 AM To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: atw: Re: To press while... or hold? I've always used press. Does someone have a Microsoft Manual of Style handy? I think that's what they prescribe. If that were my sentence and the context allowed for it, I'd actually rewrite the sentence to remove the 'ings'. Sonja -----Original Message----- From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nigel Dawes Sent: Monday, 16 February 2004 9:14 AM To: 'austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: atw: To press while... or hold? Hi Any suggestions for a sub to "pressing" in the below statement? "Pressing the Shift key while clicking the button updates all parameters" My colleagues use "hold". Thanks & Regards Nigel -- Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content filtering. http://www.mailguard.com.au/mg ************************************************** To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject field. To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. To search the austechwriter archives, go to www.freelists.org/archives/austechwriter To contact the list administrator, send a message to austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ************************************************** ************************************************** To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject field. To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. To search the austechwriter archives, go to www.freelists.org/archives/austechwriter To contact the list administrator, send a message to austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ************************************************** -- Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content filtering. http://www.mailguard.com.au/mg ************************************************** To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject field. To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. To search the austechwriter archives, go to www.freelists.org/archives/austechwriter To contact the list administrator, send a message to austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ************************************************** ************************************************** To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject field. To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. To search the austechwriter archives, go to www.freelists.org/archives/austechwriter To contact the list administrator, send a message to austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx **************************************************