[pure-silver] Re: NOW: Exposing paper was Re: POP with paper negs?
- From: DarkroomMagic <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: PureSilverNew <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 13:19:25 +0100
On 12/16/04 10:44 PM, "Ryuji Suzuki" <rs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: DarkroomMagic <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: NOW: Exposing paper was Re: POP with paper negs?
> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 22:15:47 +0100
>
>> Don't use dodging and burning before the base exposure and contrast
>> is right. Make sure, you have a foundation before you build the rest
>> of the house! This approach eliminates frustration.
>
> Thanks, but I don't need your dogmatized instructions.
There are not meant as such, but if you put dodging and burning prior to
getting the exposure right, you need some help.
>
>> Fact! As I said before, cover one of your pictures, show it to
>> someone not familiar with it, uncover it briefly and ask them what
>> they saw.
>
> That doesn't prove anything about what eyes are attracted to. It just
> tells you what they remember they saw in a brief moment. There are
> lots of lots of findings about visual system, eye movement system and
> visual perception published by neurophysiologists and
> psychophysicists. If you argue something is fact, I suggest you at
> least check your arguments are consistent with what's already figured
> out, or else what is the discrepancy and what possible explanations
> can be made. Far fetched arguments stated as if it were a fact would
> results in problems. (Though this is a common thing to find in
> darkroom manuals and photography literature!)
>
> You said "If one spreads 'half-truth' long enough, it will eventually
> become the truth." Maybe this is what people *hope* but the reality is
> that more and more truth is getting found, especially about neural
> systems, and that kind of bullshit doesn't work as well any more.
>
If the majority of people, who look at a variety of images for a brief
moment, are attracted by the highlights first, then eyes are attracted by
light. This is far from a far-fetched argument. I suggest again 'Eye and
Brain', The Psychology of Seeing by Richard Gregory. If you want to dig any
deeper, read 'Physiological Optics' by Hermann von Helmholtz. In addition,
check the findings and teachings of Max Wertheimer and the Bauhaus school in
Weimar and Chicago. Start with 'Bauhaus' by Frank Whitford.
> --
> Ryuji Suzuki
> "Keep a good head and always carry a light camera."
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