Ray Rogers wrote: > > (snipped heavily)... where humans are involved, we > tend to look at the eyes initally, and then take in > other points, but repeatedly come back to the eyes... A large portion of viewing time is spent acually on > the eye sockets. > Not with some of Mortensen's humans. ;-) But to get serious and mix some of the recent topics, Mortensen studied brilliance and how to obtain it. He concluded print brilliance comes from midtones, well separated. Thus his liking for flat lighting and various means of expanding midtones. Sometimes an interesting conflict with my own nuttiness about separating shadows regardless of where the subject is. Resulting brilliance might or might not be your primary subject, but a non-brilliant print favoring a well-separated highlight subject might not be the best choice either. It appears that we can have lots of highlights while still not making what we like to call a brilliant print. Initially I exposed prints for highlights and tweaked contrast, it sounded like a lot of sense but not for long. Now I'm with Ryuji, I pivot around wherever the primary interest is to me, which I find is seldom either very high or very low, and sometimes print controls are predicted in advance to be necessary to arrive at a meaningful initial work print. Isn't that part of visualization? And I confess I catch myself trying to think in terms of midtone subjects so the brilliance more nearly falls in the same place as the item of most interest. I wish I had more experience with fog, but it's hard to predict here halfway around the globe from the U.K. Mortensen is well worth reading. He was very methodical, and all his methods and subjects are not the bizarre stuff often discussed. I'm planning to put my collection on the block. Unfortunately they are scarce due to this significant figure being banished to the hinterlands by my hero Ansel and friends, so they bring collector's prices now. Regards... Dick Gifford, Adair Ok USA ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.