[lit-ideas] Re: Immigration
- From: Carol Kirschenbaum <carolkir@xxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 22:23:35 -0800
Eric wrote: I'll get a more detailed written account before I
> say more.
ck: To figure out how this works, you'd need to learn more than it's safe to
tell a stranger. And more than it's safe to know. Like teachers and their
students in public schools, doctors treating Medicare/Medicaid patients do
not know people's legal status, unless that person tells them directly. (In
California and Texas, I know, it's actually illegal for teachers to ask
where students come from, no matter how innocent the query. So much for that
moment of educational enrichment.)
In California, and perhaps NY--every state?--it's illegal to discriminate
against someone for not being a citizen. And yes, Social Security cards
aren't hard to get, either. With a bit of finagling (the kind that so many
people do at tax time), kids raised across the border get financial aid for
college, too.
Honestly, I think this immigration stuff is a huge national (binational?)
distraction, as long as the issue focuses on Mexico. The higher-paid workers
Andreas refers to are tech workers from India and Asia, I think. It's harder
now for companies in SV to retain them. I would guess that incidents of
worker-abuse, in that sector, are lower than they used to be. I mean, why
fear being sent back to Calcutta when the tech jobs there pay nearly as
well, adjusting for cost of living?
Carol,
in post-sickie procrastination mode
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric" <eyost1132@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 10:04 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Immigration
> Robert: But nobody 'gets' Medicare just because a clinic or hospital
> treats them as a Medicare or Medicaid patient. Hospitals cannot bill
> Medicare unless the person being treated is covered under Medicare, i.e.,
> has a Medicare account.
>
> This was info from a phone call, not a post, and I may have the Medicare
> part wrong, but I have been assured that many illegals get Social Security
> numbers (illegally). They also receive federal payments for their hospital
> costs. There is some sort of bureaucratic finesse going on between the
> social welfare agencies and the hospitals, and I have been told that
> payment to the hospitals takes a long time but eventually comes through.
>
> I'll get a more detailed written account before I say more.
>
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