In a message dated 3/26/2006 11:50:22 P.M. Central Standard Time, carolkir@xxxxxxxx writes: ck: Aha. I get it now. It's Scramble of the Bottom-Feeder time. Instead of attacking the mega-rich people and corporations who benefit from the new Bush tax cuts (and offshoring, among other things), let's distract ourselves by fretting about the cost of social programs--although they're already whittled to very, very little. Hi, Yes...that's sometimes what it feels like! Not really what one wants to have communicated, mind you, but it is what it ends up seeming like it sounds! And, so, that is *one* of the reasons for not wanting illegal immigration--that there ARE fewer and fewer dollars to go around for social programs ... which are being cut and cut and cut... So, yes--the pushing of making the illegal immigrants legal is being done by corporate America and corporate America does not believe in paying taxes and also thinks that anyone on the public dole of any sort is a no-good lazy one...so how can they say such and then not pay living wages? I don't know. But, knowing that the Chambers of Commerce, etc. are all pushing for cheap non-skilled 'guest workers' instead of hiring those who are here and need jobs...it just does seem so suspect to me. (okay--I grant you--I'm always a bit leary when they are pushing and driving so hard for something--I see few of them with the desire for taking care of their workers any more...) If there was not the corporate welfare, the tax cuts for the mega-rich--we had a sense of social obligation--maybe we would not have issues with the bringing in of so many more people. That is very true. and, I don't know why that is not being talked about. (I suppose that is why the question as to why we can put so many on the street to be pro-Bush and pro-illegal immigration and not be able to get so many out on the street to impeach one of the reasons why we have so little to be caretakers of those in our immediate communities...) though one of the sites which was sent to me today from a Democratic list that I am on stated that one reason for concern was the issues of the environment--that we are already almost to the overload point in terms of water and land and other usage--and that's true in Missouri, for sure--there was a study done not long ago which talked about that...which is why the sale, I suppose, of the national parks and forests is so attractive to developers--there is not much left at least in Missouri... The point there, I guess, is that there needs to be planned growth and not this rampant out-of-control population growth that is happening. Which is why one of the main proponents to the link sent to me had lots of environmental stuff in regards to this issue... Best, Marlena