Before everyone gets too excited, please take a deep breath and relax. I think that there is some mis-communication here, coupled with the age old problem of trying to express oneself via the internet. Just a thought. Cynthia --- On Fri, 9/18/09, Laura Havis <lhavis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Laura Havis <lhavis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: September Review To: pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Friday, September 18, 2009, 2:57 PM I don't see it that way!! I don't think the advertising has anything to do with EGO. It's advertising! You want someone (hopefully a judge) to see your dog/handler, and hopefully they will remember your add, and pick your dog/handler the next time they judge. What's the difference between that and a clothing add. Its there to sell! I love seeing the beautiful pictures of the GSD's. Just like I love looking at the clothes in the Neimans catalog. Sincerely, Laura Havis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula Cooke" <pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 2:35 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: September Review What part(s) of my posts didn't you understand? To restate, and hopefully simplify it for you, if anyone was truly honest with themselves, they would admit----it is ALL an ego trip!!! I love my dog; I am proud of him; I am proud of the people who supported me in my quest; I am proud of the judges he won under and wanted to give them praise and recognition, as well as thanks; I am thankful to my handlers (I am pretty sure it says that in the ad), I adore my co-owners.....they have given me so much to be thankful for. They are all a part of my BIG, EGO-TRIP of a BRAG!!! Where does it say I have to be selling ANYTHING???? I am not a breeder. I am forever indebted to the breeders that make dogs that I own and show possible, but, I am not a part of that world and do not see why this is such a problem for some of you. If you like my dog, talk to me about it; if you don't like my dog, you can talk to me about it, or not, but, I fail to see why any so-called reputable breeder would publicly imply that there is anything at all wrong with him when I chose not to word my ad in a way they approve, or don't approve, of!! How rude is that?? Several years ago, I told a wonderful lady, and her husband, that I wanted a CHAMPION. I do NOT want to breed dogs. They gave me the beautiful Diana, whom I finished and put working titles on, then they gave me Harley, whom I finished, put a working title on, and am still having a BALL with. What do other people get out of denigrating him and my joy in him?? I am sorry I'm not as thick-skinned as some of you seem to think is necessary, but, take a look at your attitudes and maybe you will start to understand why many people drop out of this game. Over the past 30-some years, I have seen many good, caring, people come and go...........many leaving with tears in their eyes. Paula, 24 days and counting ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Neiman <bnbgsds2000@xxxxxxxxx> To: pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx, ANN SCHULTZ <edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: September Review Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:58:50 -0700 (PDT) Why did you spend over $400 for an IBC of the Sept. Bob Neiman / Walled Lake, Mich. Breeder/owner of UKC GR Ch.B'N'B-Barkalot's Cherish RN Co-owner of UKC ChSandyCreek-B'N'B-WC's Christmas Star AKA Echo Co-owner of Ketlyn's Black Widow --- On Fri, 9/18/09, Paula Cooke <pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Paula Cooke <pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: September Review To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:51 AM Not to me. I could care less. It serves me no purpose whatsoever. I doubt that I am alone. I am not going to pay good, devalued US currency to appease a few people's curiosity when they can spend a few minutes of their own perceived valuable time and get all the info that their little hearts desire, whether to denigrate other dogs or not. In the "old days," the Review printed a dog's pic and pedigree for free when the dog finished. If the GSDCA doesn't care to support exhibitors in that small way anymore, why should I support breeders?? Paula, 24 days and counting ---------- Original Message ---------- Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:19:54 +0000 (UTC) From: edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: September Review Paula, Pedigrees are everything. Ann www.edangsd.com ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. 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