I used to shoot Velvia and Kodachrome 64 in 35mm film and Velvia and Astia in 120. Velvia produces exaggerated rather than accurate colours, most people love it. One of my professional friends changed from Velvia to digital this year. He has a "Velvia" plugin which gives his preferred colour exaggerations to his digital files, he bought it from a vendor somewhere, I may get it myself too.
I also used to subscribe to NG but don't now. Frank On 6 Aug, 2007, at 12:51, Carlos Manuel Freaza wrote:
Yes Frank, it was my point about the slide, but the way you use a slide for publication is different regarding the way you do a Cibachrome or Ilfochrome print, for a magazine or book and the like the slide offers a pattern to control and to maintain the same colors along the process up to the final product inclusive, the final image quality depends about the original quality and about the pre-press and press processes quality. Publications like National Geographic magazine published photographs on the basis of 35mm slides for a 90% and a few of MF and color negative and B&W film, but from two years ago the images became 90% digital and only one of the regular photographers use film for his work, as NGM collector from several years ago, I couldn't perceive any improvement for the images quality, in the other hand I find most images lost bright and vividness and I miss those deep and bright colors you can find in images from a Velvia 50 for example. I bought NGM every month for the images mainly, now I onoly buy it if a I think some article could be interesting.- All the best Carlos --- Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:It is true that slides are for projection originally but for the latter period I used 35mm film, and now in medium format, slides are the requested medium for publication - though there are only a tiny minority of professionals still using film. Movies are a different thing altogether. Our eyes are much more tolerant in moving pictures - try looking how awful a frozen movie frame looks. In addition the cost of re-equipping many thousands of cinemas with new equipment when the existing stuff is good enough for the quality required doesn't make much sense. I completely understand the personal preference of an individual for the film medium for storage reasons. I still use film for the fun of using my older cameras. I use digital for quality and flexibility. Frank On 6 Aug, 2007, at 11:07, Carlos Manuel Freaza wrote:Slides were made to project them on a screen usingananalog projector and for traditional no digital graphic arts, could you project a digital imageusingan analog projector?, no, you couldn't do it.Printsfrom slides are an exceptional use. Digital and film have reached and surpassed thehumaneye limits to distinguish an improvement for theimageif both means are well processed and manipulated, there are personal preferences and necessities and situations to choose one of them, I still preferfilmin general because it's a very stable and reliablewayto keep my images, it does not mean I can't use a digital camera for some reason sometimes. BTW, most of the cinematographic industry stilluse35mm film, most of the theaters owners don't seeanadvantage for the digital projection, if theyadoptthe digital projection some day, the reasonwouldn'tbe the quality. All the best Carlos --- Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:Certainly the convenience of digital was itsfirstattraction to me. I hesitated for a while because the web punditssaidit was not very good, even though I suspect that, like me, theyhadnever used it and were referring to some theoretical shortcoming. When I borrowed a digital P&S, purchased torecordwind tunnel model shots as an aide memoire to the technicians, IfoundI got results way better than I would have believed possiblehadthe pundits been right. I still have a print from one of the shotsIdid with this camera hanging on a wall. This piqued my interest. In summary I would say that the results I getfrommy EOS 1Ds Mk2 are much better than 35mm slide film in every way.Thedynamic range is comparable, every other aspect is easily visibly superior. The results I get from my Rolleiflex and Mamiya 7 are visibly superior, though by less than I would haveexpected.Producing a satisfactory print from a Rollei or Mamiya slide takes me very much longer than from the digital. I now have a LeicaM8which may be superior to all of them, the prints are fabulous, but I haven't bothered to compare yet. FWIW. Frank On 6 Aug, 2007, at 05:37, Peter J Nebergallwrote:Convenience is God here. Everyne is in a hurry,and anything that canget the job done faster, and with the paying forless labor, willplease the bean-counters. PJ Nebergall On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 07:59:10 -0400 DouglasNygren<dnygr@xxxxxxxxxx>writes:Yes. Superior in what sense? The answer willdepend on what oneconsiders superior. Doug On Jul 21, 2007, at 7:30 AM, Frank Derniewrote:Wrong. Different yes, better demonstrably not.That some prefereitheris a matter of taste not superiority of one orthe other.Frank On 20 Jul, 2007, at 23:20, Eric Goldsteinwrote:film and vinyl are and will continue to be...--- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxwith 'subscribe'in the subject field OR by logging intowww.freelists.org- Unsubscribe atrollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxwith'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by loggingintowww.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list--- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe atrollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxwith 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list______________________________________________________________________=== message truncated ===______________________________________________________________________ ______________¡Sé un mejor ambientalista! 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