Carlos, I agree with you that film has advantages over digital and digital over film. I think it's interesting that when people want movies well done, they pick film over digital. My bias is to film if for no other reason that I don't ahve the time nor the inclination to sit down and master Photoshop to the degree I want to work at. My B&W work is a challenge to me. I don't need further challenges to complicate my life. That said, I admit I love to email photos. I'm not a big color fan. If I were, maybe I'd be more inclined towards digital. I hope film sticks around. I plan to shoot 4x5 on my vacation and when I go to Europe this fall I'll bring along a MF camera and shoot film. I'll also have a digital camera with, but for other purposes which might be likened to taking a tape recorder with to record impressions. Best to all, Doug ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Carlos Manuel Freaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:37:46 -0300 (ART) >The processes are different, the film photographers >use their own mind, the software alghorithms are >thoughts from others and BTW burning the silver grains >I have a reliable physical support for my image that I >can use independent regarding software and hardware >upgrades and protected from file format changes and >BTW I can use that physical support as digital image >too when I wish to do it. >But you are putting me in a position where I don't >wish to be, I don't reject the digital image as useful >means for a lot of tasks, I only see the fact that >film still keeps some advantages on the digital image >and this is the reason it is well alive despite the >called digital revolution.- > >All the best >Carlos >--- Robert Lilley <54moggie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió: > >> The photographer manipulated the source of light >> through lenses, shutters >> and irises in order to selectively activate certain >> silver halide crystals >> didn't he? In the case of digital photography we >> simply extend this process >> to include programmed algorithms to contribute to >> the process. >> Photographers have been using algorithms for years >> to come up with results - >> its called thinking. >> >> Another way of putting it - Let's go back to cave >> dwellers. Caveman Ralph >> has just discovered that attaching animal hair to >> the end of a stick allows >> him to alter the thickness of the pigment he is >> using to represent a bison. >> However, he is stoned by his fellows for moving >> beyond the mundane mono >> thickness produced by a plain stick dipped in >> pigment. >> >> Rob >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf >> Of Carlos Manuel Freaza >> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 1:51 PM >> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: [OT] film vs digital >> >> 2)Robert, I prefer as syntax the silver grains >> burned >> by the light directly , they are better >> representative >> about the light than an electronic signal >> interpreted >> by software talking about artistic expression.- >> >> >> --- >> Rollei List >> >> - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with 'subscribe' >> in the subject field OR by logging into >> www.freelists.org >> >> - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with >> 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging >> into www.freelists.org >> >> - Online, searchable archives are available at >> //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list >> >> > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ >¡Sé un mejor fotógrafo! >Perfeccioná tu técnica y encontrá las mejores fotos. >http://ar.yahoo.com/promos/mejorfotografo.html >--- >Rollei List > >- Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >- Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' >in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > >- Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with >'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > >- Online, searchable archives are available at >//www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list