Yep - the Nikon lens have a switch to change from AF to Manual and I think most DSLR's will have this function. Most compact digitals don't because the lens is part of the casing, most retract into this and therefore cannot have a focussing ring fitted. AF can indeed be a pain if your subject is outside the focus area. On some cameras - and camcorders - the AF works only within a small circle of the cross hairs and you have to get the target dead centre. This makes it a very hit and miss affair when panning shots as it is all to easy to stray outside the AF cone. Luckily the D80 has variable AF Area and AF Centre Area options and these can reduce the number of bad shots. It still is no substitute for accurate panning though and I am still adjusting to this - which is why I take a lot of shots of birds. My camcorder is not so hot filming aircraft displays. In fact it's lousy taking AF shots without a definite centre object to focus on. I found that out the hard way trying to film a glorious sunset in Greece - the light level was low and it was constant hunting for a lock. Bad news was that it settled on a distance of about ten feet and by the time I'd turned AF off and tried to focus manually (not that easy) the sunset had gone. So, like all bright ideas, AF works great most of the time but it can be defeated. If you can't override it you can be well and truly stuffed. bones -----Original Message----- From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Dodds Sent: 16 July 2007 17:28 To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: pdodds@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jhb] Re: Another OT All this talk of cameras prompts me to ask - my humble device is a Kodak high spec fixed lens 12:1 optical zoom unit - pretty fast and good - 7 Mpix, but not to your standard. However, I would dearly love to be able to turn off the autofocus and have a fixed focus at infinity for some shots. Quite a number of my Fairford shots are blurred because the AF was interfering - shots I could have got crisply with my old Spotmatic and its humble 200mm lens. Is there usually a way with Digital cameras to do this? I know - you're going to tell me you can with yours but I can't with mine! Grr. Peter