I don't let Mill'E do it all of the time. I have let her *show* a few times and mostly it's toys that Mill'E brings to me when we're all playing. When we work on working retrieves she is either on a down/stay in the corner or out of the room. With Gracy it really seemed to help her to watch another dog do it but that characteristic seems to be a herding dog thing. hmmm Rox and the "Kitchen Bitches" Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD, and Laveau SDIT " A teacher can only lead you to the threshold of your own mind." -- Kahlil Gibran pawpower@xxxxxxx windows messenger: Brisomania@xxxxxxxxxxx AIM: brissysgirl