Sandy, I do off leash work with my guides and love to let them run free when I have the opportunity. I let Gretch come out in the front yard when I garden off leash, and I take off her harness out front when I exit a vehicle with a lot of packages and let her follow me in to the back yard porch area on her own. I live on a very quiet street with hardly any traffic to speak of. I have camped with her and let her swim without a leash. I can honestly say that my first two guides were not too dependable off leash, and my last three, the softies, have all been fairly dependable when given the opportunity to enjoy a little freedom. I do have to say that last summer in New Jersey, Gretch's recall wasn't the best around some goose s--t she found irresistible, but she didn't stray far. I occasionally do obedience exercises off leash both in confined and unfenced areas to work on this skill. I have always enjoyed the image of a Lassie dog who is always there with you when it could just as easily run off and amuse itself. Sheila Styron, President Guide Dog Users, Inc. 816-363-3172 sheilastyron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: vi-clicker-trainers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vi-clicker-trainers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Infinitepaws@xxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 8:13 AM To: vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: (VICT) Off-leash? Hi all, I wondered if any off you routinely let your guides off leash to play. I was scolded by a client (!) because the only time Alex is off leash is at home and twice at a off leash dog area to swim with my sisters dog. I would like to hear about your experiences both good and bad. Sandy Foushee Infinite Paws-Abilities Training and Service Dogs Teamed with Alexandra Guide/Service Dog Colorado Service/Assistance Dog Club - Trainer.- ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com