Like the Looters, some people will take unfair advantage of a bad situation. Never fails. -Ed- Tel-Tek Electronics Ontario-Canada teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Myers" <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 10:45 AM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist-B] Gas Boycott, After Carefull Thought and Consideration > Same here in Indiana, all due to the BIG one in the BIG Easy, made the > wholesale price of gas already in the tanks here go up! Right! Guess > we'll just have to run service calls on a moped from now on. > > The Old Master Technician > ******************************** > Since 1972 * > Jim Myers * > Telrad Electronics * > Fort Wayne Indiana * > ******************************** > > > Andrew Rose wrote: > > in Suffolk ct new York we just got a 50 cent increase in reg gas from 2.79 > > to 3.29 over night > > Andrew Rose Action TV. Holbrook ny. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "J Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx> > > To: <repair@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Dallas Barnett" <cherokeechief35@xxxxxxxxx>; > > "Jannis Barnett" <jannis_k_barnett@xxxxxxxxx>; "Rick Barnett" > > <usnguardian@xxxxxxx>; "George Finley" <gcf1933@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Greg And > > Desi Finley" <etcetera@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Janet Finley" > > <wildflower432003@xxxxxxxxx>; "RepairWorld ListBot" > > <listbot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 4:19 PM > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist-B] Gas Boycott, After Carefull Thought > > and Consideration > > > > > > > >>This is a world-wide thing, not just a problem here. So what we do will > > > > have > > > >>little effect on the situation. If there is a gasoline surplus here, it > > > > will > > > >>just be diverted to some other country where it is needed. Thats why there > >>isnt much that the government can do about the price. Places where the > >>government puts heavy taxes on gasoline, it costs over $6 a gallon. > >>The economy of some poor countries is being totally devastated by the cost > >>of oil and gas. On the other hand, the oil producing countries are > > > > enjoying > > > >>the windfall and using the extra money to build cities, schools, > > > > hospitals, > > > >>etc. like mad. > >>Jerry Silverman > >>Greentron Inc > >>4 Newland Ave > >>Greenville SC 29609 > >>Fax/Phone 864 232 3889 > >>mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Rochester Electronics" <pasthecash@xxxxxxxxx> > >>To: "Dallas Barnett" <cherokeechief35@xxxxxxxxx>; "Jannis Barnett" > >><jannis_k_barnett@xxxxxxxxx>; "Rick Barnett" <usnguardian@xxxxxxx>; > > > > "George > > > >>Finley" <gcf1933@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Greg And Desi Finley" > >><etcetera@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Janet Finley" <wildflower432003@xxxxxxxxx>; > >>"RepairWorld ListBot" <listbot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <repair@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; > >><techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:56 AM > >>Subject: [TechAssist-B] Gas Boycott, After Carefull Thought and > >>Consideration > >> > >> > >> > >>>To all who think a one day "GAS OUT" will lower fuel > >>>prices, > >>> > >>> Good idea but NEVER EFECTIVE, advocating > >>>one-day gasoline boycotts are proof that some bad > >>>ideas never go away; they just keep getting recycled > >>>year after year. > >>> > >>> Those who really want to send a "message" to oil > >>>suppliers should try not buying any gasoline for > >>>several months in a row. > >>> > >>> This year's e-mail (proposing a one-day "gas out" > >>>on 1 September 2005) is a carbon copy of the e-mail > >>>that circulated in May 2004 (right down to the > >>>labeling of the putative boycott effort as "STICK IT > >>>UP THEIR BEHINDS DAY"), which was itself a recasting > >>>of similar messages that have been circulating since > >>>1999. All of them are reminders that "protest" schemes > >>>that don't cost the participants any inconvenience, > >>>hardship, or money remain the most popular, despite > >>>their dubious effectiveness. A one-day "gas out" was > >>>proposed in 1999, and a three-day-long event was > >>>called for in 2000, but both drew little participation > >>>and had n > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> based upon flawed premises. This year's > >>>version is no > >>>different. > >>> > >>> First of all, everyone's "not purchasing a drop > >>>of gasoline for one day" will not cause oil companies > >>>to "choke on their stockpiles." Oil companies run > >>>their inventories on a weekly basis, and since the > >>>"gas out" scheme doesn't call on people to buy less > >>>gasoline but simply to shift their date of purchase by > >>>one day, oil company stockpiles won't be affected at > >>>all. > >>> > >>> Next, merely shifting the day of purchase will not > >>>"hit the entire industry with a net loss of over $4.6 > >>>billion." Consumers won't be buying any less gasoline > >>>under this "gas out" proposal; they'll simply be > >>>purchasing gas a day earlier or a day later than they > >>>usually would. The very same amount of gasoline will > >>>be sold either way, so the oil companies aren't going > >>>to lose any money at all. > >>> > >>> By definition, a boycott involves the doing without > >>>of something, with the renunciation of the boycotted > >>>product held up as tangible proof to those who supply > >>>the commodity that consumers are prepared to do > >>>without it unless changes are made. What the "gas out" > >>>calls for isn't consumers' swearing off using or > >>>buying gasoline, even for a short time, but simply > >>>shifting their purchases by one day. Because the "gas > >>>out" doesn't call on consumers to make a sacrifice by > >>>actually giving up something, the threat it poses is a > >>>hollow one. > >>> > >>> Not buying gas on a designated day may make people > >>>feel a bit better about things by providing them a > >>>chance to vent their anger at higher gasoline prices, > >>>but the action won't have any real impact on retail > >>>prices. An effective protest would involve something > >>>like organizing people to forswear the use of their > >>>cars on specified days, an act that could effectively > >>>demonstrate the reality of the threat that if gasoline > >>>prices stay up, American consumers are prepared to > >>>move to carpooling and public transportation for the > >>>long term. Simply changing the day one buys gas, > >>>however, imparts no such threat, because nothing is > >>>being done without. > >>> > >>> Moreover, the primary potential effect of the type > >>>of boycott proposed in the "gas out" messages is to > >>>hurt those at the very end of the oil-to-gasoline > >>>chain, service station operators ? the people who have > >>>the least say in setting gasoline prices. As such, the > >>>"gas out" is a punch on the nose delivered to the > >>>wrong person. > >>> > >>> Either apathy or an outbreak of common sense has > >>>made previous "gas outs" non-events with very low > >>>levels of participation. > >>> > >>> Gasoline is a fungible, global commodity, its price > >>>subject to the ordinary forces of supply and demand. > >>>No amount of consumer gimmickry and showmanship will > >>>lower its price in the long run; only a significant, > >>>ongoing reduction in demand will accomplish that goal. > >>>Unfortunately, for many people achieving that goal > >>>would mean cutting down on their driving or opting for > >>>less desirable economy cars over less fuel-efficient > >>>models, solutions they find unappealing. > >>> > >>> An event like a "gas out" can sometimes do some > >>>good by calling attention to a cause and sending a > >>>message. In this case, though, the only message being > >>>sent is: "We consumers are so desperate for gasoline > >>>that we can't even do without it for a few days to > >>>demonstrate our dissatisfaction with its cost." What > >>>supplier is going to respond to a message like that by > >>>lowering its prices? Those who really want to send a > >>>"message" to oil suppliers should try not buying any > >>>gasoline for several months in a row. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>Mike Barnett > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>____________________________________________________ > >>>Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > >>>http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > >>> > >> > >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>---------- > >> > >>>This Email list is Private. 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