[TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist-B] Gas Boycott, After Carefull Thought and Consideration

  • From: Andrew Rose <badandy2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:16:00 -0400

in Suffolk ct new York we just got a 50 cent increase in reg gas from 2.79
to 3.29 over night
Andrew Rose Action TV. Holbrook ny.
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Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist-B] Gas Boycott, After Carefull Thought
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> This is a world-wide thing, not just a problem here. So what we do will
have
> little effect on the situation. If there is a gasoline surplus here, it
will
> just be diverted to some other country where it is needed. Thats why there
> isnt much that the government can do about the price. Places where the
> government puts heavy taxes on gasoline, it costs over $6 a gallon.
> The economy of some poor countries is being totally devastated by the cost
> of oil and gas. On the other hand, the oil producing countries are
enjoying
> the windfall and using the extra money to build cities, schools,
hospitals,
> etc. like mad.
> Jerry Silverman
> Greentron Inc
> 4 Newland Ave
> Greenville SC 29609
> Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
> mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
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> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:56 AM
> Subject: [TechAssist-B] Gas Boycott, After Carefull Thought and
> Consideration
>
>
> > To all who think a one day "GAS OUT" will lower fuel
> > prices,
> >
> >     Good idea but NEVER EFECTIVE, advocating
> > one-day gasoline boycotts are proof that some bad
> > ideas never go away; they just keep getting recycled
> > year after year.
> >
> >    Those who really want to send a "message" to oil
> > suppliers should try not buying any gasoline for
> > several months in a row.
> >
> >    This year's e-mail (proposing a one-day "gas out"
> > on 1 September 2005) is a carbon copy of the e-mail
> > that circulated in May 2004 (right down to the
> > labeling of the putative boycott effort as "STICK IT
> > UP THEIR BEHINDS DAY"), which was itself a recasting
> > of similar messages that have been circulating since
> > 1999. All of them are reminders that "protest" schemes
> > that don't cost the participants any inconvenience,
> > hardship, or money remain the most popular, despite
> > their dubious effectiveness. A one-day "gas out" was
> > proposed in 1999, and a three-day-long event was
> > called for in 2000, but both drew little participation
> > and had n
> >
> >
> >
> >  based upon flawed premises. This year's
> > version is no
> > different.
> >
> >      First of all, everyone's "not purchasing a drop
> > of gasoline for one day" will not cause oil companies
> > to "choke on their stockpiles." Oil companies run
> > their inventories on a weekly basis, and since the
> > "gas out" scheme doesn't call on people to buy less
> > gasoline but simply to shift their date of purchase by
> > one day, oil company stockpiles won't be affected at
> > all.
> >
> >     Next, merely shifting the day of purchase will not
> > "hit the entire industry with a net loss of over $4.6
> > billion." Consumers won't be buying any less gasoline
> > under this "gas out" proposal; they'll simply be
> > purchasing gas a day earlier or a day later than they
> > usually would. The very same amount of gasoline will
> > be sold either way, so the oil companies aren't going
> > to lose any money at all.
> >
> >    By definition, a boycott involves the doing without
> > of something, with the renunciation of the boycotted
> > product held up as tangible proof to those who supply
> > the commodity that consumers are prepared to do
> > without it unless changes are made. What the "gas out"
> > calls for isn't consumers' swearing off using or
> > buying gasoline, even for a short time, but simply
> > shifting their purchases by one day. Because the "gas
> > out" doesn't call on consumers to make a sacrifice by
> > actually giving up something, the threat it poses is a
> > hollow one.
> >
> >    Not buying gas on a designated day may make people
> > feel a bit better about things by providing them a
> > chance to vent their anger at higher gasoline prices,
> > but the action won't have any real impact on retail
> > prices. An effective protest would involve something
> > like organizing people to forswear the use of their
> > cars on specified days, an act that could effectively
> > demonstrate the reality of the threat that if gasoline
> > prices stay up, American consumers are prepared to
> > move to carpooling and public transportation for the
> > long term. Simply changing the day one buys gas,
> > however, imparts no such threat, because nothing is
> > being done without.
> >
> >    Moreover, the primary potential effect of the type
> > of boycott proposed in the "gas out" messages is to
> > hurt those at the very end of the oil-to-gasoline
> > chain, service station operators ? the people who have
> > the least say in setting gasoline prices. As such, the
> > "gas out" is a punch on the nose delivered to the
> > wrong person.
> >
> >    Either apathy or an outbreak of common sense has
> > made previous "gas outs" non-events with very low
> > levels of participation.
> >
> >    Gasoline is a fungible, global commodity, its price
> > subject to the ordinary forces of supply and demand.
> > No amount of consumer gimmickry and showmanship will
> > lower its price in the long run; only a significant,
> > ongoing reduction in demand will accomplish that goal.
> > Unfortunately, for many people achieving that goal
> > would mean cutting down on their driving or opting for
> > less desirable economy cars over less fuel-efficient
> > models, solutions they find unappealing.
> >
> >    An event like a "gas out" can sometimes do some
> > good by calling attention to a cause and sending a
> > message. In this case, though, the only message being
> > sent is: "We consumers are so desperate for gasoline
> > that we can't even do without it for a few days to
> > demonstrate our dissatisfaction with its cost." What
> > supplier is going to respond to a message like that by
> > lowering its prices? Those who really want to send a
> > "message" to oil suppliers should try not buying any
> > gasoline for several months in a row.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike Barnett
> >
> >
> >
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