[TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist-B] Gas Boycott, After Carefull Thought and Consideration

  • From: "tvservice" <tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:43:48 -0500

3.785 liters + 1 us gallon
Robert
tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
H & H Electronics Inc
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phillip R. Hull" <phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 2:00 PM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist-B] Gas Boycott, After Carefull Thought
and Consideration


> There is about 4 liters in a gallon     =
> Phillip R Hull
> phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> FAX 517--569-3075
> Professional Technicians only
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kevin's TV Repair" <kevintv@xxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 2:34 PM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist-B] Gas Boycott, After Carefull
Thought
> and Consideration
>
>
> > That works out to about $3.35 US dollar/US gallon.
> >
> > Kevin Wilks
> > Kevin's TV Repair
> > Penticton BC Canada
> > kevintv@xxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eric Manuel
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 7:21 AM
> > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist-B] Gas Boycott, After Carefull
> > Thought and Consideration
> >
> > Hi Andrew are you folks trying to keep up with Canada our gas is $1.15
> > a liter,,Eric
> >
> >
> >    Eric
> > E M Electronics
> > 59 Wights Rd
> > Deer Lake NL
> > Canada
> > A8A 2J2
> > Ph# 709 635 2627
> > tvman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Andrew Rose wrote:
> > > in Suffolk ct new York we just got a 50 cent increase in reg gas from
> > 2.79
> > > to 3.29 over night
> > > Andrew Rose Action TV. Holbrook ny.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "J Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx>
> > > To: <repair@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Dallas Barnett"
> > <cherokeechief35@xxxxxxxxx>;
> > > "Jannis Barnett" <jannis_k_barnett@xxxxxxxxx>; "Rick Barnett"
> > > <usnguardian@xxxxxxx>; "George Finley" <gcf1933@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> > "Greg And
> > > Desi Finley" <etcetera@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Janet Finley"
> > > <wildflower432003@xxxxxxxxx>; "RepairWorld ListBot"
> > > <listbot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 4:19 PM
> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist-B] Gas Boycott, After Carefull
> > Thought
> > > and Consideration
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>This is a world-wide thing, not just a problem here. So what we do
> > will
> > >
> > > have
> > >
> > >>little effect on the situation. If there is a gasoline surplus here,
> > it
> > >
> > > will
> > >
> > >>just be diverted to some other country where it is needed. Thats why
> > there
> > >>isnt much that the government can do about the price. Places where the
> > >>government puts heavy taxes on gasoline, it costs over $6 a gallon.
> > >>The economy of some poor countries is being totally devastated by the
> > cost
> > >>of oil and gas. On the other hand, the oil producing countries are
> > >
> > > enjoying
> > >
> > >>the windfall and using the extra money to build cities, schools,
> > >
> > > hospitals,
> > >
> > >>etc. like mad.
> > >>Jerry Silverman
> > >>Greentron Inc
> > >>4 Newland Ave
> > >>Greenville SC 29609
> > >>Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
> > >>mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
> > >>----- Original Message -----
> > >>From: "Rochester Electronics" <pasthecash@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >>To: "Dallas Barnett" <cherokeechief35@xxxxxxxxx>; "Jannis Barnett"
> > >><jannis_k_barnett@xxxxxxxxx>; "Rick Barnett" <usnguardian@xxxxxxx>;
> > >
> > > "George
> > >
> > >>Finley" <gcf1933@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Greg And Desi Finley"
> > >><etcetera@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Janet Finley"
> > <wildflower432003@xxxxxxxxx>;
> > >>"RepairWorld ListBot" <listbot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> > <repair@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> > >><techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:56 AM
> > >>Subject: [TechAssist-B] Gas Boycott, After Carefull Thought and
> > >>Consideration
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>To all who think a one day "GAS OUT" will lower fuel
> > >>>prices,
> > >>>
> > >>>    Good idea but NEVER EFECTIVE, advocating
> > >>>one-day gasoline boycotts are proof that some bad
> > >>>ideas never go away; they just keep getting recycled
> > >>>year after year.
> > >>>
> > >>>   Those who really want to send a "message" to oil
> > >>>suppliers should try not buying any gasoline for
> > >>>several months in a row.
> > >>>
> > >>>   This year's e-mail (proposing a one-day "gas out"
> > >>>on 1 September 2005) is a carbon copy of the e-mail
> > >>>that circulated in May 2004 (right down to the
> > >>>labeling of the putative boycott effort as "STICK IT
> > >>>UP THEIR BEHINDS DAY"), which was itself a recasting
> > >>>of similar messages that have been circulating since
> > >>>1999. All of them are reminders that "protest" schemes
> > >>>that don't cost the participants any inconvenience,
> > >>>hardship, or money remain the most popular, despite
> > >>>their dubious effectiveness. A one-day "gas out" was
> > >>>proposed in 1999, and a three-day-long event was
> > >>>called for in 2000, but both drew little participation
> > >>>and had n
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> based upon flawed premises. This year's
> > >>>version is no
> > >>>different.
> > >>>
> > >>>     First of all, everyone's "not purchasing a drop
> > >>>of gasoline for one day" will not cause oil companies
> > >>>to "choke on their stockpiles." Oil companies run
> > >>>their inventories on a weekly basis, and since the
> > >>>"gas out" scheme doesn't call on people to buy less
> > >>>gasoline but simply to shift their date of purchase by
> > >>>one day, oil company stockpiles won't be affected at
> > >>>all.
> > >>>
> > >>>    Next, merely shifting the day of purchase will not
> > >>>"hit the entire industry with a net loss of over $4.6
> > >>>billion." Consumers won't be buying any less gasoline
> > >>>under this "gas out" proposal; they'll simply be
> > >>>purchasing gas a day earlier or a day later than they
> > >>>usually would. The very same amount of gasoline will
> > >>>be sold either way, so the oil companies aren't going
> > >>>to lose any money at all.
> > >>>
> > >>>   By definition, a boycott involves the doing without
> > >>>of something, with the renunciation of the boycotted
> > >>>product held up as tangible proof to those who supply
> > >>>the commodity that consumers are prepared to do
> > >>>without it unless changes are made. What the "gas out"
> > >>>calls for isn't consumers' swearing off using or
> > >>>buying gasoline, even for a short time, but simply
> > >>>shifting their purchases by one day. Because the "gas
> > >>>out" doesn't call on consumers to make a sacrifice by
> > >>>actually giving up something, the threat it poses is a
> > >>>hollow one.
> > >>>
> > >>>   Not buying gas on a designated day may make people
> > >>>feel a bit better about things by providing them a
> > >>>chance to vent their anger at higher gasoline prices,
> > >>>but the action won't have any real impact on retail
> > >>>prices. An effective protest would involve something
> > >>>like organizing people to forswear the use of their
> > >>>cars on specified days, an act that could effectively
> > >>>demonstrate the reality of the threat that if gasoline
> > >>>prices stay up, American consumers are prepared to
> > >>>move to carpooling and public transportation for the
> > >>>long term. Simply changing the day one buys gas,
> > >>>however, imparts no such threat, because nothing is
> > >>>being done without.
> > >>>
> > >>>   Moreover, the primary potential effect of the type
> > >>>of boycott proposed in the "gas out" messages is to
> > >>>hurt those at the very end of the oil-to-gasoline
> > >>>chain, service station operators ? the people who have
> > >>>the least say in setting gasoline prices. As such, the
> > >>>"gas out" is a punch on the nose delivered to the
> > >>>wrong person.
> > >>>
> > >>>   Either apathy or an outbreak of common sense has
> > >>>made previous "gas outs" non-events with very low
> > >>>levels of participation.
> > >>>
> > >>>   Gasoline is a fungible, global commodity, its price
> > >>>subject to the ordinary forces of supply and demand.
> > >>>No amount of consumer gimmickry and showmanship will
> > >>>lower its price in the long run; only a significant,
> > >>>ongoing reduction in demand will accomplish that goal.
> > >>>Unfortunately, for many people achieving that goal
> > >>>would mean cutting down on their driving or opting for
> > >>>less desirable economy cars over less fuel-efficient
> > >>>models, solutions they find unappealing.
> > >>>
> > >>>   An event like a "gas out" can sometimes do some
> > >>>good by calling attention to a cause and sending a
> > >>>message. In this case, though, the only message being
> > >>>sent is: "We consumers are so desperate for gasoline
> > >>>that we can't even do without it for a few days to
> > >>>demonstrate our dissatisfaction with its cost." What
> > >>>supplier is going to respond to a message like that by
> > >>>lowering its prices? Those who really want to send a
> > >>>"message" to oil suppliers should try not buying any
> > >>>gasoline for several months in a row.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Mike Barnett
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
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