[TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist-B] Gas Boycott, After Carefull Thought and Consideration

  • From: "Phillip R. Hull" <phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:00:42 -0400

There is about 4 liters in a gallon     =
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> That works out to about $3.35 US dollar/US gallon.
>
> Kevin Wilks
> Kevin's TV Repair
> Penticton BC Canada
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> [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eric Manuel
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 7:21 AM
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> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist-B] Gas Boycott, After Carefull
> Thought and Consideration
>
> Hi Andrew are you folks trying to keep up with Canada our gas is $1.15
> a liter,,Eric
>
>
>    Eric
> E M Electronics
> 59 Wights Rd
> Deer Lake NL
> Canada
> A8A 2J2
> Ph# 709 635 2627
> tvman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>
>
>
>
> Andrew Rose wrote:
> > in Suffolk ct new York we just got a 50 cent increase in reg gas from
> 2.79
> > to 3.29 over night
> > Andrew Rose Action TV. Holbrook ny.
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> > From: "J Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx>
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> > "Jannis Barnett" <jannis_k_barnett@xxxxxxxxx>; "Rick Barnett"
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> > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 4:19 PM
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist-B] Gas Boycott, After Carefull
> Thought
> > and Consideration
> >
> >
> >
> >>This is a world-wide thing, not just a problem here. So what we do
> will
> >
> > have
> >
> >>little effect on the situation. If there is a gasoline surplus here,
> it
> >
> > will
> >
> >>just be diverted to some other country where it is needed. Thats why
> there
> >>isnt much that the government can do about the price. Places where the
> >>government puts heavy taxes on gasoline, it costs over $6 a gallon.
> >>The economy of some poor countries is being totally devastated by the
> cost
> >>of oil and gas. On the other hand, the oil producing countries are
> >
> > enjoying
> >
> >>the windfall and using the extra money to build cities, schools,
> >
> > hospitals,
> >
> >>etc. like mad.
> >>Jerry Silverman
> >>Greentron Inc
> >>4 Newland Ave
> >>Greenville SC 29609
> >>Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
> >>mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
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> >>To: "Dallas Barnett" <cherokeechief35@xxxxxxxxx>; "Jannis Barnett"
> >><jannis_k_barnett@xxxxxxxxx>; "Rick Barnett" <usnguardian@xxxxxxx>;
> >
> > "George
> >
> >>Finley" <gcf1933@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Greg And Desi Finley"
> >><etcetera@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Janet Finley"
> <wildflower432003@xxxxxxxxx>;
> >>"RepairWorld ListBot" <listbot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> <repair@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
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> >>Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:56 AM
> >>Subject: [TechAssist-B] Gas Boycott, After Carefull Thought and
> >>Consideration
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>To all who think a one day "GAS OUT" will lower fuel
> >>>prices,
> >>>
> >>>    Good idea but NEVER EFECTIVE, advocating
> >>>one-day gasoline boycotts are proof that some bad
> >>>ideas never go away; they just keep getting recycled
> >>>year after year.
> >>>
> >>>   Those who really want to send a "message" to oil
> >>>suppliers should try not buying any gasoline for
> >>>several months in a row.
> >>>
> >>>   This year's e-mail (proposing a one-day "gas out"
> >>>on 1 September 2005) is a carbon copy of the e-mail
> >>>that circulated in May 2004 (right down to the
> >>>labeling of the putative boycott effort as "STICK IT
> >>>UP THEIR BEHINDS DAY"), which was itself a recasting
> >>>of similar messages that have been circulating since
> >>>1999. All of them are reminders that "protest" schemes
> >>>that don't cost the participants any inconvenience,
> >>>hardship, or money remain the most popular, despite
> >>>their dubious effectiveness. A one-day "gas out" was
> >>>proposed in 1999, and a three-day-long event was
> >>>called for in 2000, but both drew little participation
> >>>and had n
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> based upon flawed premises. This year's
> >>>version is no
> >>>different.
> >>>
> >>>     First of all, everyone's "not purchasing a drop
> >>>of gasoline for one day" will not cause oil companies
> >>>to "choke on their stockpiles." Oil companies run
> >>>their inventories on a weekly basis, and since the
> >>>"gas out" scheme doesn't call on people to buy less
> >>>gasoline but simply to shift their date of purchase by
> >>>one day, oil company stockpiles won't be affected at
> >>>all.
> >>>
> >>>    Next, merely shifting the day of purchase will not
> >>>"hit the entire industry with a net loss of over $4.6
> >>>billion." Consumers won't be buying any less gasoline
> >>>under this "gas out" proposal; they'll simply be
> >>>purchasing gas a day earlier or a day later than they
> >>>usually would. The very same amount of gasoline will
> >>>be sold either way, so the oil companies aren't going
> >>>to lose any money at all.
> >>>
> >>>   By definition, a boycott involves the doing without
> >>>of something, with the renunciation of the boycotted
> >>>product held up as tangible proof to those who supply
> >>>the commodity that consumers are prepared to do
> >>>without it unless changes are made. What the "gas out"
> >>>calls for isn't consumers' swearing off using or
> >>>buying gasoline, even for a short time, but simply
> >>>shifting their purchases by one day. Because the "gas
> >>>out" doesn't call on consumers to make a sacrifice by
> >>>actually giving up something, the threat it poses is a
> >>>hollow one.
> >>>
> >>>   Not buying gas on a designated day may make people
> >>>feel a bit better about things by providing them a
> >>>chance to vent their anger at higher gasoline prices,
> >>>but the action won't have any real impact on retail
> >>>prices. An effective protest would involve something
> >>>like organizing people to forswear the use of their
> >>>cars on specified days, an act that could effectively
> >>>demonstrate the reality of the threat that if gasoline
> >>>prices stay up, American consumers are prepared to
> >>>move to carpooling and public transportation for the
> >>>long term. Simply changing the day one buys gas,
> >>>however, imparts no such threat, because nothing is
> >>>being done without.
> >>>
> >>>   Moreover, the primary potential effect of the type
> >>>of boycott proposed in the "gas out" messages is to
> >>>hurt those at the very end of the oil-to-gasoline
> >>>chain, service station operators ? the people who have
> >>>the least say in setting gasoline prices. As such, the
> >>>"gas out" is a punch on the nose delivered to the
> >>>wrong person.
> >>>
> >>>   Either apathy or an outbreak of common sense has
> >>>made previous "gas outs" non-events with very low
> >>>levels of participation.
> >>>
> >>>   Gasoline is a fungible, global commodity, its price
> >>>subject to the ordinary forces of supply and demand.
> >>>No amount of consumer gimmickry and showmanship will
> >>>lower its price in the long run; only a significant,
> >>>ongoing reduction in demand will accomplish that goal.
> >>>Unfortunately, for many people achieving that goal
> >>>would mean cutting down on their driving or opting for
> >>>less desirable economy cars over less fuel-efficient
> >>>models, solutions they find unappealing.
> >>>
> >>>   An event like a "gas out" can sometimes do some
> >>>good by calling attention to a cause and sending a
> >>>message. In this case, though, the only message being
> >>>sent is: "We consumers are so desperate for gasoline
> >>>that we can't even do without it for a few days to
> >>>demonstrate our dissatisfaction with its cost." What
> >>>supplier is going to respond to a message like that by
> >>>lowering its prices? Those who really want to send a
> >>>"message" to oil suppliers should try not buying any
> >>>gasoline for several months in a row.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Mike Barnett
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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