[TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist-B] Gas Boycott, After Carefull Thought and Consideration

  • From: Kevin's TV Repair <kevintv@xxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:34:26 -0700

That works out to about $3.35 US dollar/US gallon.

Kevin Wilks
Kevin's TV Repair
Penticton BC Canada 
kevintv@xxxxxxx


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Hi Andrew are you folks trying to keep up with Canada our gas is $1.15
a liter,,Eric


   Eric
E M Electronics
59 Wights Rd
Deer Lake NL
Canada
A8A 2J2
Ph# 709 635 2627
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Andrew Rose wrote:
> in Suffolk ct new York we just got a 50 cent increase in reg gas from
2.79
> to 3.29 over night
> Andrew Rose Action TV. Holbrook ny.
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> "Jannis Barnett" <jannis_k_barnett@xxxxxxxxx>; "Rick Barnett"
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> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist-B] Gas Boycott, After Carefull
Thought
> and Consideration
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>>This is a world-wide thing, not just a problem here. So what we do
will
> 
> have
> 
>>little effect on the situation. If there is a gasoline surplus here,
it
> 
> will
> 
>>just be diverted to some other country where it is needed. Thats why
there
>>isnt much that the government can do about the price. Places where the
>>government puts heavy taxes on gasoline, it costs over $6 a gallon.
>>The economy of some poor countries is being totally devastated by the
cost
>>of oil and gas. On the other hand, the oil producing countries are
> 
> enjoying
> 
>>the windfall and using the extra money to build cities, schools,
> 
> hospitals,
> 
>>etc. like mad.
>>Jerry Silverman
>>Greentron Inc
>>4 Newland Ave
>>Greenville SC 29609
>>Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
>>mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
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>>From: "Rochester Electronics" <pasthecash@xxxxxxxxx>
>>To: "Dallas Barnett" <cherokeechief35@xxxxxxxxx>; "Jannis Barnett"
>><jannis_k_barnett@xxxxxxxxx>; "Rick Barnett" <usnguardian@xxxxxxx>;
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> "George
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>>Finley" <gcf1933@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Greg And Desi Finley"
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>>Subject: [TechAssist-B] Gas Boycott, After Carefull Thought and
>>Consideration
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>>>To all who think a one day "GAS OUT" will lower fuel
>>>prices,
>>>
>>>    Good idea but NEVER EFECTIVE, advocating
>>>one-day gasoline boycotts are proof that some bad
>>>ideas never go away; they just keep getting recycled
>>>year after year.
>>>
>>>   Those who really want to send a "message" to oil
>>>suppliers should try not buying any gasoline for
>>>several months in a row.
>>>
>>>   This year's e-mail (proposing a one-day "gas out"
>>>on 1 September 2005) is a carbon copy of the e-mail
>>>that circulated in May 2004 (right down to the
>>>labeling of the putative boycott effort as "STICK IT
>>>UP THEIR BEHINDS DAY"), which was itself a recasting
>>>of similar messages that have been circulating since
>>>1999. All of them are reminders that "protest" schemes
>>>that don't cost the participants any inconvenience,
>>>hardship, or money remain the most popular, despite
>>>their dubious effectiveness. A one-day "gas out" was
>>>proposed in 1999, and a three-day-long event was
>>>called for in 2000, but both drew little participation
>>>and had n
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> based upon flawed premises. This year's
>>>version is no
>>>different.
>>>
>>>     First of all, everyone's "not purchasing a drop
>>>of gasoline for one day" will not cause oil companies
>>>to "choke on their stockpiles." Oil companies run
>>>their inventories on a weekly basis, and since the
>>>"gas out" scheme doesn't call on people to buy less
>>>gasoline but simply to shift their date of purchase by
>>>one day, oil company stockpiles won't be affected at
>>>all.
>>>
>>>    Next, merely shifting the day of purchase will not
>>>"hit the entire industry with a net loss of over $4.6
>>>billion." Consumers won't be buying any less gasoline
>>>under this "gas out" proposal; they'll simply be
>>>purchasing gas a day earlier or a day later than they
>>>usually would. The very same amount of gasoline will
>>>be sold either way, so the oil companies aren't going
>>>to lose any money at all.
>>>
>>>   By definition, a boycott involves the doing without
>>>of something, with the renunciation of the boycotted
>>>product held up as tangible proof to those who supply
>>>the commodity that consumers are prepared to do
>>>without it unless changes are made. What the "gas out"
>>>calls for isn't consumers' swearing off using or
>>>buying gasoline, even for a short time, but simply
>>>shifting their purchases by one day. Because the "gas
>>>out" doesn't call on consumers to make a sacrifice by
>>>actually giving up something, the threat it poses is a
>>>hollow one.
>>>
>>>   Not buying gas on a designated day may make people
>>>feel a bit better about things by providing them a
>>>chance to vent their anger at higher gasoline prices,
>>>but the action won't have any real impact on retail
>>>prices. An effective protest would involve something
>>>like organizing people to forswear the use of their
>>>cars on specified days, an act that could effectively
>>>demonstrate the reality of the threat that if gasoline
>>>prices stay up, American consumers are prepared to
>>>move to carpooling and public transportation for the
>>>long term. Simply changing the day one buys gas,
>>>however, imparts no such threat, because nothing is
>>>being done without.
>>>
>>>   Moreover, the primary potential effect of the type
>>>of boycott proposed in the "gas out" messages is to
>>>hurt those at the very end of the oil-to-gasoline
>>>chain, service station operators ? the people who have
>>>the least say in setting gasoline prices. As such, the
>>>"gas out" is a punch on the nose delivered to the
>>>wrong person.
>>>
>>>   Either apathy or an outbreak of common sense has
>>>made previous "gas outs" non-events with very low
>>>levels of participation.
>>>
>>>   Gasoline is a fungible, global commodity, its price
>>>subject to the ordinary forces of supply and demand.
>>>No amount of consumer gimmickry and showmanship will
>>>lower its price in the long run; only a significant,
>>>ongoing reduction in demand will accomplish that goal.
>>>Unfortunately, for many people achieving that goal
>>>would mean cutting down on their driving or opting for
>>>less desirable economy cars over less fuel-efficient
>>>models, solutions they find unappealing.
>>>
>>>   An event like a "gas out" can sometimes do some
>>>good by calling attention to a cause and sending a
>>>message. In this case, though, the only message being
>>>sent is: "We consumers are so desperate for gasoline
>>>that we can't even do without it for a few days to
>>>demonstrate our dissatisfaction with its cost." What
>>>supplier is going to respond to a message like that by
>>>lowering its prices? Those who really want to send a
>>>"message" to oil suppliers should try not buying any
>>>gasoline for several months in a row.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Mike Barnett
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>____________________________________________________
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>>>
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