[TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist-B] Gas Boycott, After Carefull Thought and Consideration

  • From: peggs <peggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:10:39 -0700

I saw on my local news last night that the Governor of the State of Illinois
has ordered 'officials' to look into any jump of $.30 or more as 'Price 
Gouging'.

My local gas station jumped from $2.37 to $2.68......and they are always 
the cheapest
in town.

Your President has open the 'National Oil Reserves'........I'm wondering if 
Gas will drop by
that same $.31 overnight ???

Peggs

At 07:16 AM 8/31/05, Andrew Rose wrote:
>in Suffolk ct new York we just got a 50 cent increase in reg gas from 2.79
>to 3.29 over night
>Andrew Rose Action TV. Holbrook ny.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "J Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx>
>To: <repair@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Dallas Barnett" <cherokeechief35@xxxxxxxxx>;
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>Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 4:19 PM
>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist-B] Gas Boycott, After Carefull Thought
>and Consideration
>
>
> > This is a world-wide thing, not just a problem here. So what we do will
>have
> > little effect on the situation. If there is a gasoline surplus here, it
>will
> > just be diverted to some other country where it is needed. Thats why there
> > isnt much that the government can do about the price. Places where the
> > government puts heavy taxes on gasoline, it costs over $6 a gallon.
> > The economy of some poor countries is being totally devastated by the cost
> > of oil and gas. On the other hand, the oil producing countries are
>enjoying
> > the windfall and using the extra money to build cities, schools,
>hospitals,
> > etc. like mad.
> > Jerry Silverman
> > Greentron Inc
> > 4 Newland Ave
> > Greenville SC 29609
> > Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
> > mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
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> > From: "Rochester Electronics" <pasthecash@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "Dallas Barnett" <cherokeechief35@xxxxxxxxx>; "Jannis Barnett"
> > <jannis_k_barnett@xxxxxxxxx>; "Rick Barnett" <usnguardian@xxxxxxx>;
>"George
> > Finley" <gcf1933@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Greg And Desi Finley"
> > <etcetera@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Janet Finley" <wildflower432003@xxxxxxxxx>;
> > "RepairWorld ListBot" <listbot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <repair@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> > <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:56 AM
> > Subject: [TechAssist-B] Gas Boycott, After Carefull Thought and
> > Consideration
> >
> >
> > > To all who think a one day "GAS OUT" will lower fuel
> > > prices,
> > >
> > >     Good idea but NEVER EFECTIVE, advocating
> > > one-day gasoline boycotts are proof that some bad
> > > ideas never go away; they just keep getting recycled
> > > year after year.
> > >
> > >    Those who really want to send a "message" to oil
> > > suppliers should try not buying any gasoline for
> > > several months in a row.
> > >
> > >    This year's e-mail (proposing a one-day "gas out"
> > > on 1 September 2005) is a carbon copy of the e-mail
> > > that circulated in May 2004 (right down to the
> > > labeling of the putative boycott effort as "STICK IT
> > > UP THEIR BEHINDS DAY"), which was itself a recasting
> > > of similar messages that have been circulating since
> > > 1999. All of them are reminders that "protest" schemes
> > > that don't cost the participants any inconvenience,
> > > hardship, or money remain the most popular, despite
> > > their dubious effectiveness. A one-day "gas out" was
> > > proposed in 1999, and a three-day-long event was
> > > called for in 2000, but both drew little participation
> > > and had n
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  based upon flawed premises. This year's
> > > version is no
> > > different.
> > >
> > >      First of all, everyone's "not purchasing a drop
> > > of gasoline for one day" will not cause oil companies
> > > to "choke on their stockpiles." Oil companies run
> > > their inventories on a weekly basis, and since the
> > > "gas out" scheme doesn't call on people to buy less
> > > gasoline but simply to shift their date of purchase by
> > > one day, oil company stockpiles won't be affected at
> > > all.
> > >
> > >     Next, merely shifting the day of purchase will not
> > > "hit the entire industry with a net loss of over $4.6
> > > billion." Consumers won't be buying any less gasoline
> > > under this "gas out" proposal; they'll simply be
> > > purchasing gas a day earlier or a day later than they
> > > usually would. The very same amount of gasoline will
> > > be sold either way, so the oil companies aren't going
> > > to lose any money at all.
> > >
> > >    By definition, a boycott involves the doing without
> > > of something, with the renunciation of the boycotted
> > > product held up as tangible proof to those who supply
> > > the commodity that consumers are prepared to do
> > > without it unless changes are made. What the "gas out"
> > > calls for isn't consumers' swearing off using or
> > > buying gasoline, even for a short time, but simply
> > > shifting their purchases by one day. Because the "gas
> > > out" doesn't call on consumers to make a sacrifice by
> > > actually giving up something, the threat it poses is a
> > > hollow one.
> > >
> > >    Not buying gas on a designated day may make people
> > > feel a bit better about things by providing them a
> > > chance to vent their anger at higher gasoline prices,
> > > but the action won't have any real impact on retail
> > > prices. An effective protest would involve something
> > > like organizing people to forswear the use of their
> > > cars on specified days, an act that could effectively
> > > demonstrate the reality of the threat that if gasoline
> > > prices stay up, American consumers are prepared to
> > > move to carpooling and public transportation for the
> > > long term. Simply changing the day one buys gas,
> > > however, imparts no such threat, because nothing is
> > > being done without.
> > >
> > >    Moreover, the primary potential effect of the type
> > > of boycott proposed in the "gas out" messages is to
> > > hurt those at the very end of the oil-to-gasoline
> > > chain, service station operators ? the people who have
> > > the least say in setting gasoline prices. As such, the
> > > "gas out" is a punch on the nose delivered to the
> > > wrong person.
> > >
> > >    Either apathy or an outbreak of common sense has
> > > made previous "gas outs" non-events with very low
> > > levels of participation.
> > >
> > >    Gasoline is a fungible, global commodity, its price
> > > subject to the ordinary forces of supply and demand.
> > > No amount of consumer gimmickry and showmanship will
> > > lower its price in the long run; only a significant,
> > > ongoing reduction in demand will accomplish that goal.
> > > Unfortunately, for many people achieving that goal
> > > would mean cutting down on their driving or opting for
> > > less desirable economy cars over less fuel-efficient
> > > models, solutions they find unappealing.
> > >
> > >    An event like a "gas out" can sometimes do some
> > > good by calling attention to a cause and sending a
> > > message. In this case, though, the only message being
> > > sent is: "We consumers are so desperate for gasoline
> > > that we can't even do without it for a few days to
> > > demonstrate our dissatisfaction with its cost." What
> > > supplier is going to respond to a message like that by
> > > lowering its prices? Those who really want to send a
> > > "message" to oil suppliers should try not buying any
> > > gasoline for several months in a row.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike Barnett
> > >
> > >
> > >
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