[TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist-B] Gas Boycott, After Carefull Thought and Consideration

  • From: walter wood <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:26:34 -0700 (PDT)

Regular gas was $2.50 a gallon in Pulaski Tn.
yesterday, and is $2.84 today.
Kicker is that most places are out of gas.
None at any price.
Maybe the oil companies saw the suggestion about
boycotting, and decided to cut off the supply.
Walter


--- Don Hartigan <hartstv@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Here in NewBrunswick it's 1.30 a liter.That's
> about 5.85 a gallon.I'll take 
> your 3.29 a gallon in a heart beat.............
> Don of HARTS-TVCR"ASC"
> 9 Robert St.,Oromocto,NB,Canada,E2V3N2
> Tel#506-357-9785,Fax#506-357-6010
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andrew Rose" <badandy2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:29 AM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist-B] Gas
> Boycott, After Carefull Thought 
> and Consideration
> 
> 
> > you know you really know how to hurt a guy
> > Andrew Rose Action TV. Holbrook ny.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Eric Manuel" <tvman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 10:20 AM
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist-B] Gas
> Boycott, After Carefull 
> > Thought
> > and Consideration
> >
> >
> >> Hi Andrew are you folks trying to keep up with
> Canada our gas is $1.15
> >> a liter,,Eric
> >>
> >>
> >>    Eric
> >> E M Electronics
> >> 59 Wights Rd
> >> Deer Lake NL
> >> Canada
> >> A8A 2J2
> >> Ph# 709 635 2627
> >> tvman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Andrew Rose wrote:
> >> > in Suffolk ct new York we just got a 50 cent
> increase in reg gas from
> > 2.79
> >> > to 3.29 over night
> >> > Andrew Rose Action TV. Holbrook ny.
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "J Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <repair@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Dallas
> Barnett"
> > <cherokeechief35@xxxxxxxxx>;
> >> > "Jannis Barnett"
> <jannis_k_barnett@xxxxxxxxx>; "Rick Barnett"
> >> > <usnguardian@xxxxxxx>; "George Finley"
> <gcf1933@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Greg
> > And
> >> > Desi Finley" <etcetera@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> "Janet Finley"
> >> > <wildflower432003@xxxxxxxxx>; "RepairWorld
> ListBot"
> >> > <listbot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 4:19 PM
> >> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist-B] Gas
> Boycott, After Carefull
> > Thought
> >> > and Consideration
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>This is a world-wide thing, not just a
> problem here. So what we do will
> >> >
> >> > have
> >> >
> >> >>little effect on the situation. If there is
> a gasoline surplus here, it
> >> >
> >> > will
> >> >
> >> >>just be diverted to some other country where
> it is needed. Thats why
> > there
> >> >>isnt much that the government can do about
> the price. Places where the
> >> >>government puts heavy taxes on gasoline, it
> costs over $6 a gallon.
> >> >>The economy of some poor countries is being
> totally devastated by the
> > cost
> >> >>of oil and gas. On the other hand, the oil
> producing countries are
> >> >
> >> > enjoying
> >> >
> >> >>the windfall and using the extra money to
> build cities, schools,
> >> >
> >> > hospitals,
> >> >
> >> >>etc. like mad.
> >> >>Jerry Silverman
> >> >>Greentron Inc
> >> >>4 Newland Ave
> >> >>Greenville SC 29609
> >> >>Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
> >> >>mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
> >> >>----- Original Message -----
> >> >>From: "Rochester Electronics"
> <pasthecash@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>To: "Dallas Barnett"
> <cherokeechief35@xxxxxxxxx>; "Jannis Barnett"
> >> >><jannis_k_barnett@xxxxxxxxx>; "Rick Barnett"
> <usnguardian@xxxxxxx>;
> >> >
> >> > "George
> >> >
> >> >>Finley" <gcf1933@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Greg And
> Desi Finley"
> >> >><etcetera@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Janet Finley" 
> >> >><wildflower432003@xxxxxxxxx>;
> >> >>"RepairWorld ListBot"
> <listbot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> > <repair@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> >> >><techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:56 AM
> >> >>Subject: [TechAssist-B] Gas Boycott, After
> Carefull Thought and
> >> >>Consideration
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>To all who think a one day "GAS OUT" will
> lower fuel
> >> >>>prices,
> >> >>>
> >> >>>    Good idea but NEVER EFECTIVE,
> advocating
> >> >>>one-day gasoline boycotts are proof that
> some bad
> >> >>>ideas never go away; they just keep getting
> recycled
> >> >>>year after year.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>   Those who really want to send a
> "message" to oil
> >> >>>suppliers should try not buying any
> gasoline for
> >> >>>several months in a row.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>   This year's e-mail (proposing a one-day
> "gas out"
> >> >>>on 1 September 2005) is a carbon copy of
> the e-mail
> >> >>>that circulated in May 2004 (right down to
> the
> >> >>>labeling of the putative boycott effort as
> "STICK IT
> >> >>>UP THEIR BEHINDS DAY"), which was itself a
> recasting
> >> >>>of similar messages that have been
> circulating since
> >> >>>1999. All of them are reminders that
> "protest" schemes
> >> >>>that don't cost the participants any
> inconvenience,
> >> >>>hardship, or money remain the most popular,
> despite
> >> >>>their dubious effectiveness. A one-day "gas
> out" was
> >> >>>proposed in 1999, and a three-day-long
> event was
> >> >>>called for in 2000, but both drew little
> participation
> >> >>>and had n
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> based upon flawed premises. This year's
> >> >>>version is no
> >> >>>different.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>     First of all, everyone's "not
> purchasing a drop
> >> >>>of gasoline for one day" will not cause oil
> companies
> >> >>>to "choke on their stockpiles." Oil
> companies run
> >> >>>their inventories on a weekly basis, and
> since the
> >> >>>"gas out" scheme doesn't call on people to
> buy less
> >> >>>gasoline but simply to shift their date of
> purchase by
> >> >>>one day, oil company stockpiles won't be
> affected at
> >> >>>all.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>    Next, merely shifting the day of
> purchase will not
> >> >>>"hit the entire industry with a net loss of
> over $4.6
> >> >>>billion." Consumers won't be buying any
> less gasoline
> >> >>>under this "gas out" proposal; they'll
> simply be
> >> >>>purchasing gas a day earlier or a day later
> than they
> >> >>>usually would. The very same amount of
> gasoline will
> >> >>>be sold either way, so the oil companies
> aren't going
> >> >>>to lose any money at all.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>   By definition, a boycott involves the
> doing without
> >> >>>of something, with the renunciation of the
> boycotted
> >> >>>product held up as tangible proof to those
> who supply
> >> >>>the commodity that consumers are prepared
> to do
> >> >>>without it unless changes are made. What
> the "gas out"
> >> >>>calls for isn't consumers' swearing off
> using or
> >> >>>buying gasoline, even for a short time, but
> simply
> >> >>>shifting their purchases by one day.
> Because the "gas
> >> >>>out" doesn't call on consumers to make a
> sacrifice by
> >> >>>actually giving up something, the threat it
> poses is a
> >> >>>hollow one.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>   Not buying gas on a designated day may
> make people
> >> >>>feel a bit better about things by providing
> them a
> >> >>>chance to vent their anger at higher
> gasoline prices,
> >> >>>but the action won't have any real impact
> on retail
> >> >>>prices. An effective protest would involve
> something
> >> >>>like organizing people to forswear the use
> of their
> >> >>>cars on specified days, an act that could
> effectively
> >> >>>demonstrate the reality of the threat that
> if gasoline
> >> >>>prices stay up, American consumers are
> prepared to
> >> >>>move to carpooling and public
> transportation for the
> >> >>>long term. Simply changing the day one buys
> gas,
> >> >>>however, imparts no such threat, because
> nothing is
> >> >>>being done without.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>   Moreover, the primary potential effect
> of the type
> >> >>>of boycott proposed in the "gas out"
> messages is to
> >> >>>hurt those at the very end of the
> oil-to-gasoline
> >> >>>chain, service station operators ? the
> people who have
> >> >>>the least say in setting gasoline prices.
> As such, the
> >> >>>"gas out" is a punch on the nose delivered
> to the
> >> >>>wrong person.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>   Either apathy or an outbreak of common
> sense has
> >> >>>made previous "gas outs" non-events with
> very low
> >> >>>levels of participation.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>   Gasoline is a fungible, global
> commodity, its price
> >> >>>subject to the ordinary forces of supply
> and demand.
> >> >>>No amount of consumer gimmickry and
> showmanship will
> >> >>>lower its price in the long run; only a
> significant,
> >> >>>ongoing reduction in demand will accomplish
> that goal.
> >> >>>Unfortunately, for many people achieving
> that goal
> >> >>>would mean cutting down on their driving or
> opting for
> >> >>>less desirable economy cars over less
> fuel-efficient
> >> >>>models, solutions they find unappealing.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>   An event like a "gas out" can sometimes
> do some
> >> >>>good by calling attention to a cause and
> sending a
> >> >>>message. In this case, though, the only
> message being
> >> >>>sent is: "We consumers are so desperate for
> gasoline
> >> >>>that we can't even do without it for a few
> days to
> >> >>>demonstrate our dissatisfaction with its
> cost." What
> >> >>>supplier is going to respond to a message
> like that by
> >> >>>lowering its prices? Those who really want
> to send a
> >> >>>"message" to oil suppliers should try not
> buying any
> >> >>>gasoline for several months in a row.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Mike Barnett
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >>
>
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