I believe that Andrew Rose Action TV. Holbrook ny. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Gutz" <alg@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 10:11 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist-B] Gas Boycott, After Carefull Thought and Consideration > And test by the agency that monitors quality of food and drugs have > tested bottled water and find it is mostly straight out of the tap. > > Al G > > Andrew Rose wrote: > > > how much is your bottled water if that's more then 4.00 gallon for gas I > > think ill stay here and not complain > > Andrew Rose Action TV. Holbrook ny. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tel-Tek Electronics" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 10:43 AM > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist-B] Gas Boycott, After Carefull Thought > > and Consideration > > > > > > > >>Still less than our bottled water.;-) > >> > >>-Ed- > >>Tel-Tek Electronics > >>Ontario-Canada > >> > >>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Eric Manuel" <tvman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 10:20 AM > >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist-B] Gas Boycott, After Carefull > > > > Thought > > > >>and Consideration > >> > >> > >> > >>>Hi Andrew are you folks trying to keep up with Canada our gas is $1.15 > >>>a liter,,Eric > >>> > >>> > >>> Eric > >>>E M Electronics > >>>59 Wights Rd > >>>Deer Lake NL > >>>Canada > >>>A8A 2J2 > >>>Ph# 709 635 2627 > >>>tvman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>Andrew Rose wrote: > >>> > >>>>in Suffolk ct new York we just got a 50 cent increase in reg gas from > >> > >>2.79 > >> > >>>>to 3.29 over night > >>>>Andrew Rose Action TV. Holbrook ny. > >>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>From: "J Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx> > >>>>To: <repair@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Dallas Barnett" > >> > >><cherokeechief35@xxxxxxxxx>; > >> > >>>>"Jannis Barnett" <jannis_k_barnett@xxxxxxxxx>; "Rick Barnett" > >>>><usnguardian@xxxxxxx>; "George Finley" <gcf1933@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; > > > > "Greg > > > >>And > >> > >>>>Desi Finley" <etcetera@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Janet Finley" > >>>><wildflower432003@xxxxxxxxx>; "RepairWorld ListBot" > >>>><listbot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 4:19 PM > >>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist-B] Gas Boycott, After Carefull > >> > >>Thought > >> > >>>>and Consideration > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>This is a world-wide thing, not just a problem here. So what we do > > > > will > > > >>>>have > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>little effect on the situation. If there is a gasoline surplus here, > > > > it > > > >>>>will > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>just be diverted to some other country where it is needed. Thats why > >> > >>there > >> > >>>>>isnt much that the government can do about the price. Places where the > >>>>>government puts heavy taxes on gasoline, it costs over $6 a gallon. > >>>>>The economy of some poor countries is being totally devastated by the > >> > >>cost > >> > >>>>>of oil and gas. On the other hand, the oil producing countries are > >>>> > >>>>enjoying > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>the windfall and using the extra money to build cities, schools, > >>>> > >>>>hospitals, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>etc. like mad. > >>>>>Jerry Silverman > >>>>>Greentron Inc > >>>>>4 Newland Ave > >>>>>Greenville SC 29609 > >>>>>Fax/Phone 864 232 3889 > >>>>>mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx > >>>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>From: "Rochester Electronics" <pasthecash@xxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>To: "Dallas Barnett" <cherokeechief35@xxxxxxxxx>; "Jannis Barnett" > >>>>><jannis_k_barnett@xxxxxxxxx>; "Rick Barnett" <usnguardian@xxxxxxx>; > >>>> > >>>>"George > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Finley" <gcf1933@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Greg And Desi Finley" > >>>>><etcetera@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Janet Finley" > > > > <wildflower432003@xxxxxxxxx>; > > > >>>>>"RepairWorld ListBot" <listbot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; > >> > >><repair@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; > >> > >>>>><techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:56 AM > >>>>>Subject: [TechAssist-B] Gas Boycott, After Carefull Thought and > >>>>>Consideration > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>To all who think a one day "GAS OUT" will lower fuel > >>>>>>prices, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Good idea but NEVER EFECTIVE, advocating > >>>>>>one-day gasoline boycotts are proof that some bad > >>>>>>ideas never go away; they just keep getting recycled > >>>>>>year after year. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Those who really want to send a "message" to oil > >>>>>>suppliers should try not buying any gasoline for > >>>>>>several months in a row. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> This year's e-mail (proposing a one-day "gas out" > >>>>>>on 1 September 2005) is a carbon copy of the e-mail > >>>>>>that circulated in May 2004 (right down to the > >>>>>>labeling of the putative boycott effort as "STICK IT > >>>>>>UP THEIR BEHINDS DAY"), which was itself a recasting > >>>>>>of similar messages that have been circulating since > >>>>>>1999. All of them are reminders that "protest" schemes > >>>>>>that don't cost the participants any inconvenience, > >>>>>>hardship, or money remain the most popular, despite > >>>>>>their dubious effectiveness. A one-day "gas out" was > >>>>>>proposed in 1999, and a three-day-long event was > >>>>>>called for in 2000, but both drew little participation > >>>>>>and had n > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>based upon flawed premises. This year's > >>>>>>version is no > >>>>>>different. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> First of all, everyone's "not purchasing a drop > >>>>>>of gasoline for one day" will not cause oil companies > >>>>>>to "choke on their stockpiles." Oil companies run > >>>>>>their inventories on a weekly basis, and since the > >>>>>>"gas out" scheme doesn't call on people to buy less > >>>>>>gasoline but simply to shift their date of purchase by > >>>>>>one day, oil company stockpiles won't be affected at > >>>>>>all. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Next, merely shifting the day of purchase will not > >>>>>>"hit the entire industry with a net loss of over $4.6 > >>>>>>billion." Consumers won't be buying any less gasoline > >>>>>>under this "gas out" proposal; they'll simply be > >>>>>>purchasing gas a day earlier or a day later than they > >>>>>>usually would. The very same amount of gasoline will > >>>>>>be sold either way, so the oil companies aren't going > >>>>>>to lose any money at all. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> By definition, a boycott involves the doing without > >>>>>>of something, with the renunciation of the boycotted > >>>>>>product held up as tangible proof to those who supply > >>>>>>the commodity that consumers are prepared to do > >>>>>>without it unless changes are made. What the "gas out" > >>>>>>calls for isn't consumers' swearing off using or > >>>>>>buying gasoline, even for a short time, but simply > >>>>>>shifting their purchases by one day. Because the "gas > >>>>>>out" doesn't call on consumers to make a sacrifice by > >>>>>>actually giving up something, the threat it poses is a > >>>>>>hollow one. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Not buying gas on a designated day may make people > >>>>>>feel a bit better about things by providing them a > >>>>>>chance to vent their anger at higher gasoline prices, > >>>>>>but the action won't have any real impact on retail > >>>>>>prices. An effective protest would involve something > >>>>>>like organizing people to forswear the use of their > >>>>>>cars on specified days, an act that could effectively > >>>>>>demonstrate the reality of the threat that if gasoline > >>>>>>prices stay up, American consumers are prepared to > >>>>>>move to carpooling and public transportation for the > >>>>>>long term. Simply changing the day one buys gas, > >>>>>>however, imparts no such threat, because nothing is > >>>>>>being done without. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Moreover, the primary potential effect of the type > >>>>>>of boycott proposed in the "gas out" messages is to > >>>>>>hurt those at the very end of the oil-to-gasoline > >>>>>>chain, service station operators ? the people who have > >>>>>>the least say in setting gasoline prices. As such, the > >>>>>>"gas out" is a punch on the nose delivered to the > >>>>>>wrong person. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Either apathy or an outbreak of common sense has > >>>>>>made previous "gas outs" non-events with very low > >>>>>>levels of participation. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Gasoline is a fungible, global commodity, its price > >>>>>>subject to the ordinary forces of supply and demand. > >>>>>>No amount of consumer gimmickry and showmanship will > >>>>>>lower its price in the long run; only a significant, > >>>>>>ongoing reduction in demand will accomplish that goal. > >>>>>>Unfortunately, for many people achieving that goal > >>>>>>would mean cutting down on their driving or opting for > >>>>>>less desirable economy cars over less fuel-efficient > >>>>>>models, solutions they find unappealing. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> An event like a "gas out" can sometimes do some > >>>>>>good by calling attention to a cause and sending a > >>>>>>message. In this case, though, the only message being > >>>>>>sent is: "We consumers are so desperate for gasoline > >>>>>>that we can't even do without it for a few days to > >>>>>>demonstrate our dissatisfaction with its cost." What > >>>>>>supplier is going to respond to a message like that by > >>>>>>lowering its prices? Those who really want to send a > >>>>>>"message" to oil suppliers should try not buying any > >>>>>>gasoline for several months in a row. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Mike Barnett > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>____________________________________________________ > >>>>>>Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > >>>>>>http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > >>> > >>>>>---------- > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>This Email list is Private. 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