Hi Zane, I have to disagree with you on the movement part. The movement has gone straight downhill along with the correct type and sexual characteristics. In reality, it's almost hard to finish a good moving dog anymore as they look too different and the judges eyes are becoming trained to accept the lack of correct outreaching sidegait. Sidegait is a part of correct Shepherd type. Any breed that looses it's strong males and feminine bitches is doomed to go downhill. This has happened in other breeds and it takes many generations to get it back. I would say that the breeders need to save the big, substantial "doggy" bitches as they are what will produce those more masculine males. Do you have availabilty to videos of dogs in the past? Even 5 years ago? Look at Specials then compare. I would also guess that the quality in Beaumont was less than usual due to the small entry. Joan --- On Wed, 11/19/08, Zane Brooks <zanebgsd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Zane Brooks <zanebgsd@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Nationals To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 12:41 AM JMO I think that since I have started showing and going to the nationals the quality every year has gone done down!!!!!!! The only thing that seemed to improve was the puppy classes. Some of the GSDs that placed at this years nationals were not my taste at all!!!!! But then again I was not the Judge.. I do believe that people are putting so much emphasis on SIDEGAIT and not the TOTAL DOG!!!!!!!! On the topic of Head Piece: I absoutely HATE snipey heads of dogs or bitches. I much rather have a big headed bitch or a snipey headed one. Has far as males I want a Strong head like that dog "RENO" that dog is all male. Very few or little is needed to make a happy life. Zane Brooks Best Junior Handler GSDCA nationals, ST. Louis 2006 And now the newest PRO.... ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================