< if no one shared the stud dogs they have used or know about, how would we find out what was out there to be able to breed to and have puppies from and show puppies in the ring etc...> Well, that's easy. You either look at web sites which a good or known kennel would have or you simply ask for studs on the list with reference to private responses. It is well known that the promoting of studs, puppies, etc. is not permitted (although some have done so). I personally don't care whether it is German or American line, it really should not be on the list and I am sure by now the originally poster got the message. So please, folks, let's not get carried away again. Lee Liane (Lee) Fossland Steppenwind German Shepherds Home of Ch. Donar, Loni, CD, Auburn & KaraMia www.steppenwindgsd.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================