I think its helpful to share when there are new stud dogs to the area as we are always looking to find the best possible male for our females. I stumbled upon the 2 males listed below. I saw one at the NASS last year and then i made an apppointment last week when i heard they were coming to our area to go see them. New to Connecticut, in from Germany, is a GORGEOUS substantial "male of all male" looking studs, a V Whisky v Bierstadter Hof SchH3 son Abo v Osterberger Land SchH3. I personally saw him. What a HEAD, the topline is just beautiful, he is AWESOME. Ears set great, eyes dark, nice muzzle, pigment nice, great full coat, solid dog, muscle like you wouldnt believe. Temperament is great, really fun male. his structure correct, i didnt see him move though, it was raining out and i just couldnt stop staring at him. Its all individual likes and dislikes but when you see this dog, you know he is a male! I plan on grabbing some moving shots soon, though. His dam Clea vom Osterberger Land produced the VA3 female at the German Sieger show in 2003. I am waiting on seeing his critique and he was koreklassed and trained in Germany. Another male in CT is Pedro v Karanberg from Germany, he is out of Yasko v Farbenspiel and Kathrin v Arlett. Kathrin is out of VA2 Timo v Berrekasten and an Ulk v Arlett daughter, Sina. Very nice dog, very dark saddle nice pigment, nice structure. I didnt see him move yet either. I havent seen either dogs bitework. I didnt go over Pedro as long as i would have liked it was raining and i had to get back... but i plan on finding out more about both males. He too was very nice structure, top line both had nice solid bone. If anyone wants to do more research on the two, I believe there is going to be a website soon. I am sure they wont mind if i pass along their contact info if you would like it. Regards, Dawnmarie ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================