In a message dated 12/15/2004 9:24:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, iza10@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Sure, your German-bred AKC Registered dog can be shown here in AKC shows, > but let's face it, people, he/she will only win under a handful of judges > in this country. > i beg to differ, there are honest judges who put up dogs to the standard, and these german lines can be of the AKC standard for which we are SUPPOSED to be breeding to. incase you werent aware of that and most of these judges dont even utilize the german bloodlines in their breeding programs. <<<<<But this is not the forum to exthol the virtues of German-bred dogs, IF YOU HAVEN'T EVEN BRED TO THEM YET. Even our "Brags" and Litter Announcements guidelines ask that you not state how wonderful the puppies are gaiting at 2 days old - no advertising !! This poster should relay her opinions of these dogs to her friends and associates WHO ARE INTERESTED IN GERMAN-BRED DOGS, not the 1,000 or how ever many Listers there are that are interested in AKC-style SHOW dogs>>>> . that is so closed minded to say that a majority of the folks on here could care less about hearing about upcoming new bloodlines, regardless where they come from. i dont know many prejudice people on this list that are that adamant about non AM Bred shepherds, thats just YOUR opinion who likes to hear about different lines of the GSD. The GSDCA promotes the GSD doesnt say only the American Shepherd GSD and last i looked the list does not say anywhere "members with german line are not allowed to play here" nor do i recall it saying "it is not allowed to discuss your german bloodline shepherd" if it does say this, i will have to apologize because i never saw that. i KNOW the debate things is NOT allowed and should NOT BE ALLOWED, EVER. and posts like yours may start it but naturally it will come back to those who are just sharing very nice neutral statements. Regards, Dawnmarie ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================