Thank you again, Veronica. This is a terrible disaster and it has shaken me -- as it has our TV reporters -- I am distressed and on edge. Most of the people in many of these countries are Muslims. What an VC> opportunity to open his heart to them in their sorrow and grief, wasted. I don't think he sees that -- unfortunately. To be fair to Blair, he usually does. VC> Judy, I did not think you were being pushy at all. And what I am hearing VC> here from analysts is that our illustrious president let yet another VC> opportunity slip by to give a different image of us and himself to the VC> world. Most of the people in many of these countries are Muslims. What an VC> opportunity to open his heart to them in their sorrow and grief, wasted. VC> Veronica >> [Original Message] >> From: Judy Evans <judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Date: 12/29/2004 5:29:40 PM >> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Priorities >> >> >> Wednesday, December 29, 2004, 10:02:43 PM, Veronica Caley wrote: >> >> VC> Thank you. >> >> Thank you for taking it that way, Veronica. I felt I was being a bit >> pushy... also I should have said the reason dec can raise so much >> money here so fast is that we have everything set up: tonight the BBC >> cancelled a programme to give half-an-hour to the issue then broadcast >> The Appeal, which will be on all major channels. It is so much easier >> to do that here. But the US is organising, I should have checked the >> NYt before posting >> >> Judy >> >> VC> Veronica >> >> >> >> [Original Message] >> >> From: Judy Evans <judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> Date: 12/29/2004 2:35:51 PM >> >> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Priorities >> >> >> >> Donations -- I see the NYT has a list, with links >> >> >> >> Judy >> >> >> >> Wednesday, December 29, 2004, 7:14:57 PM, you wrote: >> >> >> >> JE> Wednesday, December 29, 2004, 6:29:36 PM, Veronica Caley wrote: >> >> >> >> VC>> I read several of these articles including the one you cite. This >> VC> news >> >> VC>> source does not seem to be anything like an objective news outlet, >> VC> but >> >> VC>> rather another arm of right wing propaganda machine, therefore I >> VC> give i= >> >> JE> t no >> >> VC>> credence. >> >> >> >> JE> Thank you, Veronica; I have now looked at the site more closely -- VC> yes >> >> JE> -- at first very sleepy glance I thought I was looking at a VC> standard >> >> JE> news site... >> >> >> >> VC>> Re the UN comment, out of order and undiplomatic. >> >> >> >> JE> I think it's worth looking at what Jan Egeland actually said: >> >> >> >> >>The second stage is for medium and long term help. The UN is holding >> >> >> a conference next month to discuss the next steps following >> >> >> this disaster. Already the UN's emergency co-coordinator >> >> >> Jan Egeland has said this might be the worst natural disaster ever. >> >> >> That implies the need for unusually large contributions. >> >> >> >> >>He is also complaining that rich countries are not giving enough to VC> the >> >> >> poor anyway. "It is beyond me why we are so stingy. Really. VC> Christmas >> >> >> time should remind many Western countries at least, how rich we have >> VC> beco= >> >> JE> me," he said. >> >> >> >> >>"There are several donors who are less generous than before in a >> VC> growing w= >> >> JE> orld economy." >> >> >> >> >>He suggested that governments "believe that they are really burdening >> >> >>the taxpayers too much, and the taxpayers want to give less. >> >> >> It's not true. They want to give more." >> >> >> >> JE> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4130127.stm >> >> >> >> VC>> Concerning how much US >> >> VC>> government will contribute to Asian relief? Who knows? Mr. VC> Bush's >> VC> tac= >> >> JE> tic >> >> VC>> for several years is to mandate programs, offer money to pay for VC> it >> VC> and >> >> VC>> then greatly reduce it. =20 >> >> >> >> >> >> JE> I think perhaps I'd best be no comment... -- I do have a plea. Both >> >> JE> the US and the UK rely on citizens giving money (of course Bush has >> >> JE> actually admitted this) but that shouldn;t stop peopke who feel VC> they >> >> JE> can give something, doing so. Our Disasters' Emergency Committee, >> >> JE> having raised more than =A340 million for the Sudan, has now VC> launched >> VC> a >> >> JE> Tsunami Appeal. They already have $5 million - since yesterday and VC> the >> >> JE> appeal hasn't really started -- but, well, the more the better. >> >> JE> Their web page is a bit shaky at the moment (they've had to change VC> it >> VC> fast) >> >> JE> and I think a lot of people are trying to access it -- still, here VC> it >> VC> is: >> >> >> >> >> >> JE> http://www.dec.org.uk/ >> >> >> >> JE> or people might prefer to give to Medecins Sans Frontieres -- >> >> JE> particularly people outside the UK -- they are >> >> JE> already there and will be sending more teams >> >> >> >> JE> www.msf.org/ >> >> >> >> JE> and >> >> >> >> JE> www.doctorswithoutborders.org/ >> >> >> >> JE> NB their web pages are also shaky, too many people are trying to >> >> JE> access them >> >> >> >> >> >> JE> Judy >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> JE> --=20 >> >> >> >> JE> >> >> mailto:judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> >> >> >> JE> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> JE> To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation VC> on/off, >> >> JE> digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> mailto:judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, >> >> digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html >> >> >> >> VC> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> VC> To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, >> VC> digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html >> >> >> >> -- >> >> mailto:judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, >> digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html VC> ------------------------------------------------------------------ VC> To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, VC> digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html -- mailto:judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html