Wednesday, December 29, 2004, 10:02:43 PM, Veronica Caley wrote: VC> Thank you. Thank you for taking it that way, Veronica. I felt I was being a bit pushy... also I should have said the reason dec can raise so much money here so fast is that we have everything set up: tonight the BBC cancelled a programme to give half-an-hour to the issue then broadcast The Appeal, which will be on all major channels. It is so much easier to do that here. But the US is organising, I should have checked the NYt before posting Judy VC> Veronica >> [Original Message] >> From: Judy Evans <judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Date: 12/29/2004 2:35:51 PM >> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Priorities >> >> Donations -- I see the NYT has a list, with links >> >> Judy >> >> Wednesday, December 29, 2004, 7:14:57 PM, you wrote: >> >> JE> Wednesday, December 29, 2004, 6:29:36 PM, Veronica Caley wrote: >> >> VC>> I read several of these articles including the one you cite. This VC> news >> VC>> source does not seem to be anything like an objective news outlet, VC> but >> VC>> rather another arm of right wing propaganda machine, therefore I VC> give i= >> JE> t no >> VC>> credence. >> >> JE> Thank you, Veronica; I have now looked at the site more closely -- yes >> JE> -- at first very sleepy glance I thought I was looking at a standard >> JE> news site... >> >> VC>> Re the UN comment, out of order and undiplomatic. >> >> JE> I think it's worth looking at what Jan Egeland actually said: >> >> >>The second stage is for medium and long term help. The UN is holding >> >> a conference next month to discuss the next steps following >> >> this disaster. Already the UN's emergency co-coordinator >> >> Jan Egeland has said this might be the worst natural disaster ever. >> >> That implies the need for unusually large contributions. >> >> >>He is also complaining that rich countries are not giving enough to the >> >> poor anyway. "It is beyond me why we are so stingy. Really. Christmas >> >> time should remind many Western countries at least, how rich we have VC> beco= >> JE> me," he said. >> >> >>"There are several donors who are less generous than before in a VC> growing w= >> JE> orld economy." >> >> >>He suggested that governments "believe that they are really burdening >> >>the taxpayers too much, and the taxpayers want to give less. >> >> It's not true. They want to give more." >> >> JE> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4130127.stm >> >> VC>> Concerning how much US >> VC>> government will contribute to Asian relief? Who knows? Mr. Bush's VC> tac= >> JE> tic >> VC>> for several years is to mandate programs, offer money to pay for it VC> and >> VC>> then greatly reduce it. =20 >> >> >> JE> I think perhaps I'd best be no comment... -- I do have a plea. Both >> JE> the US and the UK rely on citizens giving money (of course Bush has >> JE> actually admitted this) but that shouldn;t stop peopke who feel they >> JE> can give something, doing so. Our Disasters' Emergency Committee, >> JE> having raised more than =A340 million for the Sudan, has now launched VC> a >> JE> Tsunami Appeal. They already have $5 million - since yesterday and the >> JE> appeal hasn't really started -- but, well, the more the better. >> JE> Their web page is a bit shaky at the moment (they've had to change it VC> fast) >> JE> and I think a lot of people are trying to access it -- still, here it VC> is: >> >> >> JE> http://www.dec.org.uk/ >> >> JE> or people might prefer to give to Medecins Sans Frontieres -- >> JE> particularly people outside the UK -- they are >> JE> already there and will be sending more teams >> >> JE> www.msf.org/ >> >> JE> and >> >> JE> www.doctorswithoutborders.org/ >> >> JE> NB their web pages are also shaky, too many people are trying to >> JE> access them >> >> >> JE> Judy >> >> >> >> >> JE> --=20 >> >> JE> >> mailto:judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> JE> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> JE> To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, >> JE> digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html >> >> >> >> -- >> >> mailto:judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, >> digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html VC> ------------------------------------------------------------------ VC> To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, VC> digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html -- mailto:judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html