In a message dated 3/19/2015 4:39:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: That the measure or standard is different, and not merely that pregnant women are protected against being treated worse than non-pregnant women, follows from the European Court ruling in Dekker. For the record, the European Court of Justice decided in Dekker v Stichting Vormingscentrum Voor Jone Volwassen (VJV-Centrum) Plus (ECR I-3941) that pregnancy discrimination was sex [or gender] discrimination without any requirement for comparing this unfavourable treatment to a man [or male]. Interestingly, Dekker v Stichting Vormingscentrum Voor Jone Volwassen (VJV-Centrum) Plus reaffirmed this position in Webb v EMO Air Cargo (No 2) where a female had been dismissed because she had attempted to take pregnancy leave, but had not disclosed this to her employer when hired. -- not even via disimplicature. Cfr. Harnish: A: I didn't know you were pregnant. B: You still don't. (and the complications of the case: why is it that we, ceteris paribus, take the 'truth' clause to be rejected (meaning "I'm not pregnant") rather than the alleged 'justification' clause: "I am pregnant, but you are not exactly justified in believing it!"). As well as a dismissal, a failure to RENEW a fixed term contract may also be discrimination (EC I-06915 (C-438/99)) Furthermore, during any period of pregnancy or maternity leave there may be no detriment or dismissal in connection with a period of sickness. This is affirmed by Brown v Rentokil Ltd. A female is also allowed to shorten her maternity leave and return to work when she becomes pregnant again to get the second period of pregnancy, even though she is not fully able to carry out all her normal job functions. This is affirmed by Busch v Klinikum Neustadt Women who are pregnant are protected at job interviews (_sans_ implicature). This is affirmed in Tele Danmark A/S v Handels-Og Kontorfunktionaerernes Forbund I Danmark (HK) acting on behalf of Brandt-Nielsen where a female has been held to be NOT AT FAULT for NOT telling an employer she was pregnant while being interviewed for a job, despite knowing she was pregnant. (where 'knowing' fits both Plato's 'justified true belief' and a more causal, less restrictive 'conceptual analysis'). Oddly, I've noticed that in current conversational practice, a potential father may say, "I'm pregnant", or (as in some majestic plural, "We're pregnant", with the attending implicature being that "I will accompany my wife/this potential mother in her pregnancy" -- but found to be in poor taste (ps after references, below), and too semantic to get pragmatic approval. Mrs. Hart, incidentally, was pregnant three times. But talking of discrimination, Grice once said that at Oxford they never care about rules (like 'duties' -- 'stuffy' -- 'except college rules or rules of games' -- marginal note to his second book, "Conception of Value"), and Hart's resignation for his post as principal of Hertford has to do with this. It is one of those stages of Hart's life that made Thomas Nagel (who incidentally, studied philosophy under Grice at St. John's) whisper, "I wish he had burnt his diaries", 'he' meaning Hart. After serving many years within New College, Hart applied to be elected Principal of Hertford. He lived in a beautiful house and did not want to move to the Principal's lodgings within Hertford. He raised this issue only to be assured that it would not create a difficulty. However, later Hart was solemnly told that the College constitution obliged the Principal to live within the College, residing outside "only in cases of emergency" -- there has to be a 'defeasible' clause. On this footing Hart, with a little encouragement, withdrew. Sadly, years later, when the Chancellor of Oxford University, Harold Macmillan, was sitting next to Hart at a College feast, they fell into talk about Macmillan's role as Visitor to Hertford College. Macmillan disclosed that he had only had one problem. It concerned a proposal of the College to appoint, as Principal of the College, a lawyer. Macmillan did not mentioned names (He did not know the name of the lawyer -- who was not C. of E. (as it were)). What Macmillan said to Hart was that the appointing committee had not realised this fact and was concerned, upon the discovery, that it would not look good to turn down "a perfectly reputable man because he was [not C. of E., as it were]". Yet "luckily" (was Macmillan's word) they discovered this requirement of the College constitution that the Principal should live in the lodgings. So they used this as the "excuse" to turn the candidate away, without mentioning his religion -- and not acceptance of the 39 articles of faith. Allegedly, Macmillan did not know that Hart was the person of whom he was speaking. Hart did not embarrass Macmillan by mentioning names (indeed his own, i.e. Hart's own). He said later, on telling the story, that it would have been too painful to have done so. Hypocrisy triumphed, as when Grice declared that "I can be committed to the 39 articles without knowing what they are" (He is providing an analysis of 'commit'). On a different note, McEvoy invites us to compare three books, Ryle's Concept of Mind, Hart's Concept of Law, and an imaginary (by Strawson), "Concept of Science" McEvoy: "Imagine a book "The Concept of Science" which claimed there is a kind of "rule of recognition" for what constitutes science: in effect, this is what Ayer and Strawson et al claim, and by this "rule of recognition" they mean 'valid inductive procedures'. It turns out the validity of Strawson's and Ayer's inductive procedures turns on what is accepted by scientists, just as Hart's "rule of recognition" turns out to depend on what is recognised as the "rule" by lawyers. Both theories are fictions, unexplanatory and circular - they have, however, hoodwinked many fairly weak and uncritical minds." While the above is true, it may do to do a little research into 'philosophy of science' as practiced at Oxford. While that chapter in Strawson's Introduction to Logical Theory is certainly crucial, there's more to philosophy of science at Oxford than it. And more to a Popperian approach, too. I'm not sure I would see Strawson as _the philosopher of science_ alla Ordinary Language Oxford Philosophy -- but then it may well be that when the courses on philosophy of science were instituted, the heyday of ordinary language philosophy were gone. My favourite philosopher of science seems to me Mrs. Hampshire (aka Nancy Cartwright) but then she learned with all the proper philosophers! -- and my favourite of her essays seems to be "How the laws of physics lie". But perhaps the best candidate for "Oxford school" philosopher of science should be Toulmin, who was appointed University Lecturer in Philosophy of Science at Oxford University from 1949 to 1954, during which period he wrote the brilliant "The Philosophy of Science". Indeed, Hart passed his understanding of deep philosophical problems to whomever was prepared to receive it, notably Toulmin -- while granting that Hart worked "in the borderland between jurisprudence and philosophy". "The topic of exceptions or conditions of rebuttal," Toulmin writes, "has been discussed by Prof. H. L. A. Hart under the title of ‘defeasibility’" (Toulmin, Uses of Argument). Indeed, one can see in Hart all of the depth and clarity of understanding of argument which made Toulmin famous in his "Uses of Argument". In Toulmin, as in Hart,, the linguistic importance of "unless" is the springboard. The notion of defeasibility is inextricably tied up with an adversarial system of reasoning -- as in Einstein responding to his critic in that famous Oxford colloquium --. That was the point that Toulmin, and make on the subject of argumentation and dialectic. As Toulmin shows, properly characterized, all kinds of reasoning are inherently adversarial, including reasoning in epistemology, science, and decision-making -- even if Grice wished for a diagogic approach that would bring an eirenic effect. Arguments such as Hart makes in "The Concept of Law" and that Toulmin sketch in "Uses of Argument" do not have to be demonstrative. Indeed, Toulmin goes on to permit REVISION of defeasible rules, as does Law. McEvoy concludes his post against Hart's conceptual analytic approach to legal philosophy on a GENERAL note about linguistic philosophy in general -- the philosophy of linguistic minutiae --: "That's the real story: twentieth century academic philosophy in [Oxford] was made up of small, insular groups, most of whom were "scientifically illiterate" and predisposed to endless linguistic analysis to very little end - they were also self-selecting to an unhealthy degree. Among them there was little genuine profound interest in philosophy in its great scientifically-informed sense and much more interest in how to make a philosophical career out of linguistic minutiae - as Bryan Magee explains, in his "Confessions of a Philosopher", there is much more genuine and profound interest in philosophy outside of university academic departments than there is within them." Well, Oxford is perhaps different, in that there's a whole Sub-Faculty! (Now a whole Faculty!) The Faculty of Philosophy, University of Oxford, was only recently founded. Previously it was a "sub-faculty". The phrase is Kantian in origin (vide Kantian on the subfaculties of practical reason). For years, it was the Sub-Faculty of Philosophy within the Faculty of Literae Humaniores (which had been founded in 1913 (one year before the Great War, which was a good thing, seeing that with a War, Oxford had other priorities, and was indeed closed). Despite this 1913 date, the teaching of philosophy at Oxford dates back, of course to mediaeval times. The Faculty of Philosophy is now part of Oxford's Humanities Division -- where "Humanities" is new lingo for "Literae Humaniores". The Faculty of Philosphy is ranked first in the UK by The Times. McEvoy concludes: "This real story is part of the explanation for the shallow and superficial and 'let's-carry-on-regardless' approach that was taken to Popper's work by the vast majority of academic philosophers (most of whom have read next to nothing of it, and certainly not made a careful study of it). While I understand that university departments were very antipathetic to Hume for many decades after he wrote, I cannot help read [the] enconiums re Hart as being part of this 'let's-carry-on-regardless' approach." With the difference that neither Popper nor Hume ever taught at Oxford, while Hart spent his life (except a few years as a junior at the Chancery in London). Interestingly, 'let's-carry-on-regardless' is a complex expression, formed up by 'carry on', which has now been colloquially prefixed by 'and' (after 'keep calm and carry on'). A notable examples expands on the rather neutral 'carry on': i. Keep Spending and Carry On Shopping. Cheers, Speranza References: Hart, H.L.A. "The ascription of responsibility and rights," in A. Flew, ed., Logic and Language, Blackwell, Originally Proceedings of the Aristotelian Society.. Hart, H. L. A. "A logician’s fairy tale," Philosophical Review 60. Hart, H. L. A. "Are there any natural rights?" Philosophical Review 64 Hart, H. L. A. The Concept of Law, Oxford. Hart, H.L. A. Punishment and Responsibility, Oxford. Hart, H. L. A. Essays in Jurisprudence and Philosophy, Oxford. Toulmin, S. The Philosophy of Science. Toulmin, S. The Place of Reason in Ethics. Toulmin, S. The Uses of Argument. Toulim, S., A. Janik, and R. Rieke. Introduction to Reasoning, MacMillan, 1984. * On "We're pregnant" uttered by a male -- and the criticism it receives. Pregnancy is a lot of things: A joy, a pain, a blessing, a curse. One thing it's literally not is, allegedly, simultaneously experienced physically by the male who got the female pregnant. When a partner says "We're pregnant" it is supposed to implicate sympathy and unity, a sign that dudes finally get it — you both made this baby, and he is so committed to the child-rearing that will ensue that he's willing to completely violate the "semantic" rules of biology to prove it and abide by 'implicature'. Not everything that "basically means" something means the same something you think it does. This is allegedly one of those things. So when a male says "We're pregnant", implicating "We're having a baby," or "We're expecting", cancellation of implicature can become a trick. It is alleged that if a male says "We're Pregnant!" and then literally turns around and mainlines heroin while eating deli turkey, sushi, doing shots, and punching himself in the gut with no risk to the fetus, he isn't pregnant. This is not said to diminish a male partner's experience during his female partner's pregnancy or to suggest it doesn't matter, doesn't affect him, doesn't vastly alter his life, sense of himself, understanding of the world, feelings about the universe, his relationships, identity and all the things that having babies come into the world does for all of us. It's an enormously important role. But it's a supporting role, ultimately, and there's allegedly something a smidge glommy about a male's well-intentioned but entitled, oversteppy desire to call an experience unique to females his own by virtue of being there when it happens. Grice one said that "Let's have lunch together sometime" MEANS "I hope we never will" Similarly, it is alleged "We're pregnant" (as uttered by a male) means "We're having a baby." It allegedly means, "As a dad, I'm excited as hell." It means, "This is actually happening." But most importantly, when a male says "We're pregnant," he's allegedly letting everyone know that even though he's not carrying the baby, he's fully invested. The literally not-pregnant guy may say, "If you have a supportive and doting partner, is this really the hill you want to die on while quibbling over semantics?" -- Exactly, "it's the pragmatics, stupid," as Aunt Matilda used to say. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html