Megadots is simply style-based; Duxgury is not/. That is one of its greatst flaws. Yes, both programs use codes, but Megadots doesn't require folks to think about those codes. Duxbury does. That's a huge stumbling block. Megadots' styels are much more flexible and versatile, and there are more of them--or at least formatting options within those styles. And they are very easy to find and use. On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > George, > > In your reply to Catherine, you wrote: > " > "However, as well as a "Print Topic" button (No use to screen reader > users) we have added an "Emboss Topic" button, so you can be selective > about what you want in Braille." > > Is this feature going to be limited to the Duxbury help or will it be a > universal help feature? I know that my vote would be to have this > feature available throughout all of the help system. > > > > Stephen Dawes <B.A., B.Sc.> > Management Systems Analyst > The City of Calgary | Phone: (403) 268-5527 > Information & Technology #8045 | Fax: (403) 268-6423 > PO Box 2100 Postal Station M. | Email: Stephen.Dawes@xxxxxxxxxx > Calgary, Alberta, Canada. T2P 2M5 | Web: http://www.calgary.ca > > > NOTICE:: > This communication is intended ONLY for the use of the person or entity named > above and may contain information that is confidential or legally privileged. > If you are not the intended recipient named above or a person responsible for > delivering messages or communications to the intended recipient, YOU ARE > HEREBY NOTIFIED that any use, distribution, or copying of this communication > or any of the information contained in it is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by > telephone and then destroy or delete this communication, or return it to us > by mail if requested by us. The City of Calgary thanks you for your attention > and cooperation. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George Bell > > Sent: 2004 March 17 4:05 AM > > To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [duxuser] Re: specific cases of non-blind-friendliness > > > > > > Hi Catherine, > > > > Excellent message. Now we are getting down to brass tacks, > > as the colloquialism goes. > > > > > 1. DBT prints all of its initial manuals and help > > screens in file > > > formats unique to Duxbury, (dxp). In order to get help, we have to > > > already know how to use the program. > > > > This is true, and all being well, in 10.5 we will be able to > > make available at least Word files of the Installation, > > Introduction and Menus part of the Help files. > > > > The Help function itself is exactly the same as the JAWS Help > > system. In fact it is generated by the same software. Even > > if you don't use JAWS, the use of HTML Help is the same for > > thousands of Windows Applications. > > > > However, as well as a "Print Topic" button (No use to screen > > reader users) we have added an "Emboss Topic" button, so you > > can be selective about what you want in Braille. > > > > > 2. Certain options which directly effect blind users > > are neither > > > described nor explained. There is something called cursor > > tracking for > > > example, which, if disabled, causes the screen access > > devices (speech > > > and Braille) to virtually freeze. Even though they may be > > doing what > > > they are supposed to, we can't see anything. > > > > Is this specific to DBT? I'd like to investigate, so I'll be > > in touch privately for specific details. > > > > > 3. In the system menu there is no way to determine what > > items are > > > checked or not checked. Where other menus have x's which > > can be turned > > > on and off via the spacebar, the system menu has no such thing. > > > > Can you give me one or two specific examples where in DBT > > this occurs? You say, "system menu" - DBT doesn't have a > > menu called "system", hence my confusion. > > > > > 4. There is no complete list of Duxbury defaults so > > people can know > > > from where they may be starting. > > > > I shall try to produce a list of Template defaults. > > > > > 5. I never could find an explanation to justify my > > editing a file in > > > Duxbury whose keystrokes I do not know > > > versus editing the same file in a word processor (be it > > word or WordPerfect or lotus or any other. > > > > I have been advocating that DBT tries to follow as closely as > > possible, at least Word's navigational keystrokes. However, > > my own take is that if you are more comfortable doing your > > main editing in an alternative program, do so. > > > > > 6. Sometimes, when I have translated a dxp file, the codes are > > > included with the translation. Nowhere is there information > > as to how > > > to create a file without the codes. The particular example is the > > > duxguide.dxp help screen. > > > > The ONLY time I have seen codes appear in a translated > > document is when someone has not entered them in the > > corrected way as codes. They MUST be entered in DBT and you > > do need to use Ctrl + Left Square bracket, type the code, > > then press Enter. > > > > However, if you come across this problem, and are certain the > > codes were input correctly, PLEASE, PLEASE send us the .dxp > > and the translated .dxb file. You may well have found a bug > > which we don't know about. > > > > > I'll stop now. If you are serious George, and I know > > you are, ask us > > > for help. We will be more than glad to give it. > > > > Oh believe me, I AM serious Catherine. They don't call me > > all sorts of names at Duxbury for no reason. (Smile) > > > > > I beg support and constructive suggestions from other blind > > users to > > > the list. > > > > Me to! But remember, specific examples, or for instances, > > are worth their weight in gold. I should add that at this > > late stage in the 10.5 development, we're only looking for > > problem issues like those you have described. New features > > will have to be put on the back burner, or it will be > > Christmas before it gets released. (And I didn't say WHICH > > Christmas either!!) > > > > > For those who think that I am just too stupid to live, > > please write to > > > me privately, rather than disturbing these other nice people. > > > > Would I ever? I'd like to live a little longer! (Big smile) > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.622 / Virus Database: 400 - Release Date: 13/03/2004 > > > > * * * > > * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. > > * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with > > * unsubscribe > > * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also > > * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription > > * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. 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