Hi Alan, George and all,
As a "Touch Reader" of Braille and also as a transcriber, I believe that
bullets have a very important part to play in conveying to the Braille
reader the meaning and set-out of the printed text.
As transcribers, our responsibility is to convey as best as possible the
content and presentation of the printed text. We are not editors, we are
transcribers.
As a "Touch Reader" of Braille, I find that bullets, asterisks, indented
text, blank lines and the like all help me to quickly and more efficiently
understand what it is that the original author wished to convey to me.
Regards
Christine
At 08:19 AM 6/18/04, you wrote:
Hi Alan,
It concerns braille, so I'm one moderator who is on side here. So, I guess I can make comments of my own. (I'm also sighted by the way, hence some of the tack below)
First, bullets. In many senses, while these appear to be simply decorative in print, they tend to be used in place of numbers. They are also used in print in a kind of list format, which stands out because they are usually within indented margins.
Second, DBT's treatment of bullets, and indeed numbering, has been somewhat precarious at best. A lot of work has gone into improving this treatment in 10.5, though it will probably still not be perfect for everyone's needs.
Third, how bullets are treated varies from country to country, and so we must respect each others needs Internationally.
Which, to sum it all up, gives Duxbury quite a few headaches, trying to please even some users some of the time.
George.
> -----Original Message----- > From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Blackburn, Alan > Sent: 17 June 2004 22:51 > To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [duxuser] Re: From MS Word to Duxbury. > > G'day Dave, > I think we're going to be pulled into line about being off > topic soon, and I'm no expert on the construction of the > written language (maybe we need the input of an English > teacher), but to me a list groups together variations of the > same subject material which are all related closely to each > other, whereas paragraphs tend to be disparate and further > the thread of the material rather than grouping it. Does that > make sense????!!!! > > In any case, if the list exists in print and we don't want > to rewrite the book, shouldn't we also transcribe as a list > in Braille? > > Alan. > -----Original Message----- > From: David.Pawson@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:David.Pawson@xxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Thursday, 17 June 2004 4:57 PM > To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [duxuser] Re: From MS Word to Duxbury. > > Hi Alan. > > I don't know about semantics (or BANA rules), but an > "astricised"? list (did I just invent a new word?!) is a > lot easier for a touch reader to locate quickly.. > > Yes. That makes sense. List navigation is easier. > Does the fact that it is a list at all provide you (or any > reader) with additional information though? Perhaps it does > say, here's more of the same, so I'm not missing much if I > skip them, for which the list structure is valuable. > > regards DaveP. > > > ** snip here ** > > > > -- > DISCLAIMER: > > NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any > attachments is confidential and may be privileged. If you are > not the intended recipient you should not use, disclose, > distribute or copy any of the content of it or of any > attachment; you are requested to notify the sender > immediately of your receipt of the email and then to delete > it and any attachments from your system. > > RNIB endeavours to ensure that emails and any attachments > generated by its staff are free from viruses or other > contaminants. However, it cannot accept any responsibility > for any such which are transmitted. > We therefore recommend you scan all attachments. > > Please note that the statements and views expressed in this > email and any attachments are those of the author and do not > necessarily represent > > those of RNIB. > > RNIB Registered Charity Number: 226227 > > Website: http://www.rnib.org.uk > * * * > * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. > * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with > * unsubscribe > * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also > * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription > * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive > * is also located there. > * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com > * * * > ********************************************************************** > This message is intended for the addressee named and may > contain privileged information or confidential information or > both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it > and notify the sender. > ********************************************************************** > * * * > * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. > * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with > * unsubscribe > * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also > * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription > * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive > * is also located there. > * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com > * * * >
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